* bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function'
@ 2013-01-20 10:35 Drew Adams
2014-02-10 7:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2013-01-20 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 13506
I really hate to open this can of worms again. It took so long for
the fiddling with bug report mailing code to die down over the last
several years. I thought it was finally fixed so users would not
be bothered with the questions you added over this period.
Alas, apparently not so.
I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function' to
`mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after loading
`emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user setting is simply
ignored.
Emacs goes ahead, in spite of your customization, and runs you through
the gauntlet of questions. It is apparently mistakenly convinced that
you have not configured mail. IOW, the interrogation begins again:
Emacs is about to send an email message, but it has not been
configured for sending email. To tell Emacs how to send email:
- Type `mail client' to start your default email client and
pass it the message text.
- Type `smtp' to send mail directly to an "outgoing mail" server.
(Emacs may prompt you for SMTP settings).
Emacs will record your selection and will use it thereafter.
To change it later, customize the option `send-mail-function'.
Simply loading emacsbug.el should not invalidate a
(custom-set-variables
'(send-mail-function (quote mailclient-send-it) t)
in your ~/.emacs or `custom-file' that is evaluated after loading
emacsbug.el.
To reproduce, it should be enough to put this in your .emacs:
(require 'emacsbug)
(custom-set-variables
'(send-mail-function (quote mailclient-send-it) t))
Reverse the sexp order and there is no problem.
Normally, loading a library, even one with a defcustom, does not override a user
customization setting, even if that setting is evaluated after loading the
library. Apparently, emacsbug.el invalidates this principle.
In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2013-01-18 on ODIEONE
Bzr revision: 111548 sdl.web@gmail.com-20130118182218-6ywd47qsbnow6nsg
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
Configured using:
`configure --with-gcc (4.7) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags
-IC:/Devel/emacs/build/include --ldflags -LC:/Devel/emacs/build/lib'
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2013-01-20 10:35 bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function' Drew Adams
@ 2014-02-10 7:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10 17:48 ` Drew Adams
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2014-02-10 7:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 13506
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> I really hate to open this can of worms again. It took so long for
> the fiddling with bug report mailing code to die down over the last
> several years. I thought it was finally fixed so users would not
> be bothered with the questions you added over this period.
> Alas, apparently not so.
>
> I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function' to
> `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after loading
> `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user setting is simply
> ignored.
`message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, I think?
--
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* bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function'
2014-02-10 7:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2014-02-10 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2014-02-10 17:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 13506
> > I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function'
> > to `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after
> > loading `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user
> > setting is simply ignored.
>
> `message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, I
> think?
Why? And why is that relevant, even if true?
,----
| send-mail-function is a variable defined in `sendmail.el'.
| Its value is mailclient-send-it
| Original value was sendmail-query-once
|
| This variable can be risky when used as a file-local variable.
|
| Documentation:
| Function to call to send the current buffer as mail.
| The headers should be delimited by a line which is
| not a valid RFC822 header or continuation line,
| that matches the variable `mail-header-separator'.
| This is used by the default mail-sending commands. See also
| `message-send-mail-function' for use with the Message package.
|
| You can customize this variable.
|
| This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in
| version 24.1 of Emacs.
`----
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* bug#13506: 24.3.50; loading emacsbug.el ignores customized `send-mail-function'
2014-02-10 17:48 ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-02-10 18:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2014-02-10 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: larsi, 13506
> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 09:48:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 13506@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > > I just discovered that if you have customized `send-mail-function'
> > > to `mailclient-send-it', but you load that customization after
> > > loading `emacsbug.el[c]' (for whatever reason), then your user
> > > setting is simply ignored.
> >
> > `message-send-mail-function' is the variable to customize here, I
> > think?
>
> Why? And why is that relevant, even if true?
Because defcustoms don't get overwritten when you re-load their source
package?
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