* bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions.
@ 2017-06-28 12:35 Vitalie Spinu
2017-06-28 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vitalie Spinu @ 2017-06-28 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 27517
Hi,
Do
(put-text-property (point-min) 100 'help-echo "my-mouse-over" (current-buffer))
No "help-ehco" property is added. Any other property (including special
properties) can be added.
Same problem with emacs 25.2.2, but works in emacs 24.5.1.
Vitalie
In GNU Emacs 26.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
of 2017-06-28 built on galago
Repository revision: 5d45ba1a05bccc53d52422e867f378a0adeb8970
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000
System Description: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
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* bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions.
2017-06-28 12:35 bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions Vitalie Spinu
@ 2017-06-28 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-28 22:22 ` Vitalie Spinu
2021-08-13 13:18 ` bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions in *lisp-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2017-06-28 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vitalie Spinu, Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 27517
> From: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:35:07 +0200
>
> (put-text-property (point-min) 100 'help-echo "my-mouse-over" (current-buffer))
>
> No "help-ehco" property is added. Any other property (including special
> properties) can be added.
But only in lisp-mode, right?
This happens because lisp-mode.el wants itself to manage the help-echo
property:
(defun lisp-mode-variables (&optional lisp-syntax keywords-case-insensitive
elisp)
...
(setq font-lock-defaults
`(,(if elisp '(lisp-el-font-lock-keywords
lisp-el-font-lock-keywords-1
lisp-el-font-lock-keywords-2)
'(lisp-cl-font-lock-keywords
lisp-cl-font-lock-keywords-1
lisp-cl-font-lock-keywords-2))
nil ,keywords-case-insensitive nil nil
(font-lock-mark-block-function . mark-defun)
(font-lock-extra-managed-props help-echo)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
When a property appears in font-lock-extra-managed-props, font-lock
removes that property when it's about to re-fontify some region, see
font-lock-default-unfontify-region.
CC'ing Stefan, who made that change.
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* bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions.
2017-06-28 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2017-06-28 22:22 ` Vitalie Spinu
2021-08-13 13:18 ` bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions in *lisp-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Vitalie Spinu @ 2017-06-28 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 27517, Stefan Monnier
Indeed. Works in other buffers.
Vitalie
>> On Wed, Jun 28 2017 19:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Vitalie Spinu <spinuvit@gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:35:07 +0200
>>
>> (put-text-property (point-min) 100 'help-echo "my-mouse-over" (current-buffer))
>>
>> No "help-ehco" property is added. Any other property (including special
>> properties) can be added.
> But only in lisp-mode, right?
> This happens because lisp-mode.el wants itself to manage the help-echo
> property:
> (defun lisp-mode-variables (&optional lisp-syntax keywords-case-insensitive
> elisp)
> ...
> (setq font-lock-defaults
> `(,(if elisp '(lisp-el-font-lock-keywords
> lisp-el-font-lock-keywords-1
> lisp-el-font-lock-keywords-2)
> '(lisp-cl-font-lock-keywords
> lisp-cl-font-lock-keywords-1
> lisp-cl-font-lock-keywords-2))
> nil ,keywords-case-insensitive nil nil
> (font-lock-mark-block-function . mark-defun)
> (font-lock-extra-managed-props help-echo)
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> When a property appears in font-lock-extra-managed-props, font-lock
> removes that property when it's about to re-fontify some region, see
> font-lock-default-unfontify-region.
> CC'ing Stefan, who made that change.
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* bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions in *lisp-mode
2017-06-28 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-06-28 22:22 ` Vitalie Spinu
@ 2021-08-13 13:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-14 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-08-13 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 27517, Vitalie Spinu, Stefan Monnier
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> This happens because lisp-mode.el wants itself to manage the help-echo
> property:
[...]
> (font-lock-extra-managed-props help-echo)
>
> When a property appears in font-lock-extra-managed-props, font-lock
> removes that property when it's about to re-fontify some region, see
> font-lock-default-unfontify-region.
This is presumably so that font-locking can add help-echo warnings like
+ (lisp--match-hidden-arg
+ (0 '(face font-lock-warning-face
+ help-echo "Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?")))
which seems useful.
But it'd also be nice to allow other packages to also add help-echo on
bits and bobs. Is there no way to achieve that?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions in *lisp-mode
2021-08-13 13:18 ` bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions in *lisp-mode Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2021-08-14 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-08-14 12:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2021-08-14 3:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 27517, Eli Zaretskii, Vitalie Spinu
Lars Ingebrigtsen [2021-08-13 15:18:23] wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> This happens because lisp-mode.el wants itself to manage the help-echo
>> property:
>
> [...]
>
>> (font-lock-extra-managed-props help-echo)
>>
>> When a property appears in font-lock-extra-managed-props, font-lock
>> removes that property when it's about to re-fontify some region, see
>> font-lock-default-unfontify-region.
>
> This is presumably so that font-locking can add help-echo warnings like
>
> + (lisp--match-hidden-arg
> + (0 '(face font-lock-warning-face
> + help-echo "Hidden behind deeper element; move to another line?")))
>
> which seems useful.
>
> But it'd also be nice to allow other packages to also add help-echo on
> bits and bobs. Is there no way to achieve that?
There is sadly no easy way to do that currently.
You can do things like:
- Use an overlay instead of a text-property.
- Apply the text-property via `font-lock-add-keywords` rather than directly.
- Add support for "multiple planes" in text-properties. This means that
font-lock would use its own "plane" and your package could use another
plane, and the two would be correctly merged and font-lock wouldn't
erase your properties.
It's been on my todo list for many years. I've proposed it to as
a summer project to some of my students but so far to no avail.
Stefan
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* bug#27517: 26.0.50; 25.2.2; Cannot add "help-echo" property to buffer regions in *lisp-mode
2021-08-14 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2021-08-14 12:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-08-14 12:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: 27517, Vitalie Spinu
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> There is sadly no easy way to do that currently.
> You can do things like:
> - Use an overlay instead of a text-property.
> - Apply the text-property via `font-lock-add-keywords` rather than directly.
Hm, yes...
> - Add support for "multiple planes" in text-properties. This means that
> font-lock would use its own "plane" and your package could use another
> plane, and the two would be correctly merged and font-lock wouldn't
> erase your properties.
Oh, yeah! I'd totally forgotten -- that would indeed be the long term
fix for these issues. I think there's an issue for that somewhere in
here...
In any case, I'm closing this report, because it's basically "working as
designed" (until we get a new design).
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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