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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>
Cc: 20140@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#20140: 24.4; M17n shaper output rejected
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:20:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83sfsi1uvx.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220216190112.3ee79598@JRWUBU2> (message from Richard Wordingham on Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:01:12 +0000)

> Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:01:12 +0000
> From: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 20140@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > It sounds like Courier New in Windows 10 was "improved" by removing
> > the capability of ligating those 2 characters.  On Windows XP, their
> > standard Courier New shows the first 2 characters ligate into a single
> > glyph, which looks just like U+FCCA, but on Windows 10 they don't
> > ligate.  I don't know why is that; perhaps Arabic typesetting experts
> > decided these should not ligate?
> > 
> > > I must admit I'm having trouble laying my hand on a font which
> > > does these ligatures.  
> > 
> > Try the Arabic Typesetting font, there I see on Windows 10 that the
> > first 2 characters look like U+FCCA.
> > 
> > IOW, this is a font issue, not an Emacs or HarfBuzz issue.
> 
> Arabic Typesetting seems not to come in an evaluation copy of Windows
> 10.

You can easily install it from the Internet.  I did.

> And yes, the issue is that some fonts probably don't work well with
> Emacs.

??? These issues with fonts have nothing to do with Emacs.  HarfBuzz
will produce the same results outside of Emacs; e.g., try hb-view.  Or
view your message with those characters in a Web browser (by pointing
it to the bug-gnu-emacs archives) -- you will see the same results.
AFAIU, the fonts simply don't want to produce a ligature from those
two characters.  Arabic Typesetting does, so the result is what you
expect, in Emacs and elsewhere.





      reply	other threads:[~2022-02-16 19:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18 22:20 bug#20140: 24.4; M17n shaper output rejected Richard Wordingham
2015-03-19  3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21  8:33 ` K. Handa
2015-03-21 17:20   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-03-21 17:58   ` Richard Wordingham
2015-03-21 18:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-25 14:25     ` K. Handa
2015-03-25 21:45       ` Richard Wordingham
2015-04-05 19:48       ` Richard Wordingham
2022-02-03 21:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-04  7:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 22:52     ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-06  8:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 22:09         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-07 14:04           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 23:38             ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-08 22:13         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-12 18:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 16:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 20:53         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-14 13:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14 22:14             ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-15  1:27               ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-16 15:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16 15:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16 15:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 19:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 21:11         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-14 13:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14 23:26             ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-15 14:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15 21:06                 ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-16 13:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16 19:01                     ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-16 19:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]

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