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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>
Cc: 20140@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#20140: 24.4; M17n shaper output rejected
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:15:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83a6er2br1.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220215210605.1c41c1b2@JRWUBU2> (message from Richard Wordingham on Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:06:05 +0000)

> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:06:05 +0000
> From: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@ntlworld.com>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 20140@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > > Not off the top of my head, but compare لحج with the presentation
> > > form ‎ﳊ U+FCCA ARABIC LIGATURE LAM WITH HAH INITIAL FORM for the
> > > first two letters.  The lam part is a vertical line in the middle
> > > of the glyph; the 'hah' part forms the lower part of the glyph.  
> > 
> > They look identical here (using the default Courier New font).  With
> > what font did you think they will look wrong?
> 
> In the Courier New font in Windows 10 of 2017 (+ automatic updates),
> U+FCCA looks like the image in the Unicode code chart, and bears little
> resemblance to the righthand two thirds of <U+0644, U+062D, U+062C>.
> In keeping with its Latin part, the sequence of three characters looks
> as one would expect from a typewriter when one enters text letter by
> letter.

It sounds like Courier New in Windows 10 was "improved" by removing
the capability of ligating those 2 characters.  On Windows XP, their
standard Courier New shows the first 2 characters ligate into a single
glyph, which looks just like U+FCCA, but on Windows 10 they don't
ligate.  I don't know why is that; perhaps Arabic typesetting experts
decided these should not ligate?

> I must admit I'm having trouble laying my hand on a font which
> does these ligatures.

Try the Arabic Typesetting font, there I see on Windows 10 that the
first 2 characters look like U+FCCA.

IOW, this is a font issue, not an Emacs or HarfBuzz issue.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-16 13:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-18 22:20 bug#20140: 24.4; M17n shaper output rejected Richard Wordingham
2015-03-19  3:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-21  8:33 ` K. Handa
2015-03-21 17:20   ` Wolfgang Jenkner
2015-03-21 17:58   ` Richard Wordingham
2015-03-21 18:26     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-03-25 14:25     ` K. Handa
2015-03-25 21:45       ` Richard Wordingham
2015-04-05 19:48       ` Richard Wordingham
2022-02-03 21:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-04  7:37   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-05 22:52     ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-06  8:11       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 22:09         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-07 14:04           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 23:38             ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-08 22:13         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-12 18:54           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 16:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 20:53         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-14 13:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14 22:14             ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-15  1:27               ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-16 15:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16 15:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-16 15:11           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 19:49       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-13 21:11         ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-14 13:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-14 23:26             ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-15 14:40               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-15 21:06                 ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-16 13:15                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-02-16 19:01                     ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-02-16 19:20                       ` Eli Zaretskii

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