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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: sadiq@sadiqpk.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 60176@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#60176: 29.0.60; Fallback file variable mode if treesitter is not usable
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 20:21:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83r0w2merd.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86lemap8j4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 10 Jan 2023 20:08:15 +0200)

> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,  sadiq@sadiqpk.org,
>   60176@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2023 20:08:15 +0200
> 
> >>     (setq (alist-get 'c-mode major-mode-remap-alist)
> >>           (lambda () (if (treesit-available-p) (c-ts-mode) (c-mode))))
> >
> > I don't want to do this by default, because we want users of Emacs 29
> > to turn on TS modes manually, if and when they want that and think
> > they are ready.
> >
> > Of course, I don't mind if the above is done in local customizations
> > by users who are willing to use TS modes whenever they become
> > available.
> 
> Shouldn't we help users by simplifying such complex customization

What is so complex in activating a mode with a single command or a
function call?  Users do that all the time in their init files and
manually.

> and provide a customizable list of modes where tree-sitter is enabled,
> e.g.
> 
> (defcustom treesit-enable-modes nil
>   :type '(repeat
>           (choice (function-item c-ts-mode)
>                   (function-item c++-ts-mode)
>                   (function-item c-or-c++-ts-mode)
>                   ...

I disagree that asking users to customize lists of modes is helping
them.  I think just activating the modes they want, either manually or
in the init files, is a much simpler way of customization.  I don't
understand why you think the above is helping the users in any way.

>              ('c-ts-mode
>               (when (treesit-ready-p 'c t)
>                 (add-to-list 'major-mode-remap-alist '(c-mode . c-ts-mode))))

And this bit is completely unacceptable, from where I stand: it
basically means that the user activated a certain major mode he/she
wanted to use, but the result could be that an entirely different mode
was silently activated instead.  What kind of UX is that, and for a
shining new feature at that??





  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-10 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-18 12:07 bug#60176: 29.0.60; Fallback file variable mode if treesitter is not usable Mohammed Sadiq
2022-12-19  7:39 ` Juri Linkov
2022-12-19 12:35   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-19 13:12     ` Mohammed Sadiq
2022-12-19 16:43     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-09 17:30       ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-09 17:57         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-09 23:06         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-10 12:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-10 14:29             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-01-10 18:08             ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-10 18:21               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-01-16 17:32                 ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-16 18:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-16 18:36                     ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-16 19:26                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-01-17  7:33                         ` Juri Linkov
2023-01-17 12:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-19 17:29     ` Juri Linkov
2022-12-19 17:47       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-12-21  4:35 ` Yuan Fu

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