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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Axel Svensson <svenssonaxel@gmail.com>
Cc: 57072@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#57072: [BUG] update-glyphless-char-display and variation selectors
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 10:10:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83h72indie.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ40yazo_vPVAxyFyU0M42CT3-LTp=2kod7BQNmj1JvdTDcU3Q@mail.gmail.com> (message from Axel Svensson on Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:50:18 +0200)

> From: Axel Svensson <svenssonaxel@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 08:50:18 +0200
> Cc: 57072@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > What does Unicode say about the functionality of the variation
> > selectors beyond VS-16?
> 
> The code charts divide them into three groups:
> - VS1 through VS14 are "Variation selectors" [1]
> - VS15 through VS16 are "Emoji-specific variation selectors" [1]
> - VS17 through VS256 are "Ideographic-specific variation selectors" [2]
> 
> The standard itself in chapter 23.4 [3] makes no distinction between
> them but say that the only sanctioned uses that should have any effect,
> are the ones defined in:
> - StandardizedVariants.txt [4] in the Unicode Character Database, which
>   currently uses only VS1 through VS3. Confusingly though, some of them
>   seem to be used for ideographic purposes.
> - Unicode Technical Standard #51 for emojis [5], which says that VS15 is
>   "used to request a text presentation for an emoji character" while
>   VS16 is "used to request an emoji presentation for an emoji
>   character".
> - Unicode Technical Standard #37 for ideographic variation [6], which
>   confirms that it only uses VS17 through VS256.
> 
> In any case, it seems that admin/unidata/blocks.awk needs fixing, since
> it currently handles only VS1 through VS16 and does so as if they were
> all for emoji use.

AFAIR, blocks.awk does what it does only because VS16 has a special
function of requesting the Emoji presentation of characters that are
otherwise not Emoji, and our character-composition code needs to
realize that.  Unless the selectors beyond VS16 have similar
functions, I don't see any reason why we'd need to modify blocks.awk.

Or what am I missing?  IOW, to which part(s) of blocks.awk did you
allude when you wrote "it currently handles only VS1 through VS16 and
does so as if they were all for emoji use"?





  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-12  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-09  8:38 bug#57072: [BUG] update-glyphless-char-display and variation selectors Axel Svensson
2022-08-09  8:40 ` bug#57073: " Axel Svensson
2022-08-09 11:36 ` bug#57072: " Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 14:56   ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-09 16:23     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-09 20:33       ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-10 13:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 11:55           ` Robert Pluim
2022-08-16 12:01             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-11 14:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-11 14:58       ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-11 16:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-12  3:33           ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-12  5:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-12  6:50               ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-12  7:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-08-12  7:57                   ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-12 10:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-12 11:51                       ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-12 12:46                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16  8:05                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-08-16 13:06                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-08-16 13:27                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-08-16 13:39                                 ` Axel Svensson
2022-08-16 14:48                                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-08-16 16:27                                     ` Eli Zaretskii

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