From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: 40774@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org, ndame@protonmail.com
Subject: bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 15:19:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <83ee6fl3y3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86ee6f4mqe.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:35:13 +0200)
> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 40774@debbugs.gnu.org, ndame@protonmail.com
> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:35:13 +0200
>
> > So there will be some effect of this reordering, if some
> > clear-message-function does something that you say it shouldn't.
>
> Of course, when authors decide to shoot themselves in the foot,
> we can't prevent this.
They might say we shoot them in their foot, by changing the order.
> > This whole discussion started from a request to be able to accumulate
> > messages in the echo-area so that the user who is away could see them
> > all when he/she comes back from whatever took him/her away. There
> > could be quite a lot of messages accumulated during that period, and
> > the request was to leave them all on display. For which you proposed
> > to use clear-message-function in a way that doesn't actually clear
> > them.
> >
> > Is the above an accurate description and summary of what is being
> > proposed here? If so, is it now clear what kind of job I think
> > display of echo-area messages was never designed to support?
>
> Thanks for explanation, now it's clear where is the misunderstanding.
>
> Actually, the patch for clear-message-function here is unrelated
> to the feature that uses set-message-function to accumulate messages
> and doesn't use clear-message-function.
>
> The feature here is intended for users who want to always leave
> the last displayed message in the echo-area, and never clear it.
> It will be possible even to do this conditionally.
But if messages aren't cleared, they will accumulate, and then we get
to the problems I described. So it is not "unrelated", really.
In any case, if this feature is unrelated, why do you want to have it
on the release branch?
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2020-04-22 16:21 bug#40774: Error messages shouldn't be hidden when the user is idle ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 16:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-22 16:38 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-22 17:35 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 16:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-22 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 18:21 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 18:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 18:43 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 18:53 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 19:10 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-22 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22 19:35 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-23 5:58 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2020-04-23 22:16 ` Juri Linkov
2020-08-20 13:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-05 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-05 20:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-05 21:29 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-06 5:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-06 9:31 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-07 20:51 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-08 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-08 19:21 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-08 20:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-12 19:19 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-12 19:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-12 20:18 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-13 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-13 18:50 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-13 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-14 8:35 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-14 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2021-12-14 20:54 ` Juri Linkov
2021-12-15 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-23 15:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-08 19:18 ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-22 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
2020-04-23 4:38 ` ndame via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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