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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
Cc: stepnem@gmail.com, winkler@gnu.org, 2975@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:57:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83borgn18a.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201112100017.pBA0Hf4Y028604@sls-af11p1.sea2.superbservers.com>

> Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 16:17:41 -0800
> From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry)
> Cc: stepnem@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, 2975@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
>     > So, given that makeinfo can add the info itself when needed, is there
>     > really ever any need for listing the node pointers explicitly at all?
> 
>     If Karl or whoever could answer this question with a clear "no, these
>     node pointers are never needed"
> 
> I believe Eli answered this, but to reiterate, it is only (very)
> exceptional manuals which might need node pointers.
> 
> So if you're asking if texinfo-mode needs to keep supporting them, I
> would say, definitely not.  In fact, I think it would be a good thing if
> it didn't.  I have seen many authors have unnecessary problems due to
> texinfo-mode inserting the node pointers.

I updated the commentary and the doc strings of the relevant functions
in texnfo-upd.el to the effect that texinfo-update-node and the
commands that call it should only be used if one knows what they are
doing.  I also made texinfo-master-menu call texinfo-update-node only
if the prefix arg is numeric, because invoking texinfo-master-menu
with just C-u is still useful and much less problematic.

I decided not to remove the code that updates the @node lines
entirely, since texinfo-update-node could still be useful to experts
in very specialized use cases.

I also added to the doc strings of relevant commands a note about
non-support of multi-file Texinfo manuals, and a reference to
texinfo-multiple-files-update, which does.

I hope this makes the situation quite a bit better.





  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-10 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20191.12232.556454.551166@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
     [not found] ` <E1RYHPD-0000vm-PC@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <h87h28tgcg.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]     ` <20191.48632.665251.448872@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2011-12-07 20:43       ` bug#2975: texinfo-master-menu and emacs.texi Stefan Monnier
2011-12-07 21:19         ` Roland Winkler
2011-12-08  6:17           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-08 10:38             ` Štěpán Němec
2011-12-08 12:20               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-08 14:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-10 11:00                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-08 18:52                 ` Roland Winkler
2011-12-08 18:55                   ` Roland Winkler
2011-12-08 19:06                   ` Štěpán Němec
2011-12-08 19:37                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-08 19:59                       ` Štěpán Němec
2011-12-08 20:54                         ` Roland Winkler
2011-12-09  7:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-09  7:48                             ` Roland Winkler
2011-12-10  0:17                           ` Karl Berry
2011-12-10 10:57                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2011-12-09  7:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-08 19:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-12 21:33 bug#2975: `texinfo-master-menu' doesn't work Alan Mackenzie
2011-12-10 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <837h24mwfs.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <20111211173859.GA2755@acm.acm>
2011-12-11 18:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-12 12:25       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-12-12 13:02         ` Eli Zaretskii

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