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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 51733@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org
Subject: bug#51733: 27.1; Detect impossible email addresses better
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 16:57:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83bl07srh9.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a6frajfg.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Wed,  19 Jan 2022 15:28:51 +0100)

> From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> Cc: 51733@debbugs.gnu.org,  jidanni@jidanni.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 15:28:51 +0100
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > Why? .ru is a top-level domain, it doesn't affect what should be
> > before the dot, I think?
> >
> > If you replace "Сгсе.ru" with "Cгсе.ru", you do get a warning.
> 
> Yes.  But "Сгсе.ru" is a whole-script confusable with "Crce.ru", and is
> therefore suspicious.

OK, but why do you think "Сгсе.ru" is confusable?  The SLD part is
entirely made of single-script characters, and UTS#39 explicitly
allows that:

  [...] it can be perfectly legitimate to have scripts in a SLD
  (second level domain) not be the same as scripts in a TLD (top-level
  domain), such as:

    Cyrillic labels in a domain name with a TLD of .ru or .рф 

That's your case, isn't it?

> >> Is that what they mean here?
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand the purpose of finding which scripts
> > "contain a whole-script confusable with a string X".  What are we
> > supposed to do with the resulting list?
> 
> I think this standard was written by somebody with a PhD in Philosophy,
> and not a programmer, so the language is very high falutin'.
> 
> So they're not actually suggesting that a list should be made, but the
> result should be mathematically equivalent with the result of the
> mathematical algorithm described.  I just don't understand what he's
> saying here.

Regardless of what they are saying, I don't think the above is
suitable for production.  I think it should be enough to see whether
there could be confusion with the corresponding ASCII characters from
confusables.txt.





  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-19 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 123+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10  0:29 bug#51733: 27.1; Detect impossible email addresses better 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2021-11-10  0:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-10  3:34   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-10  4:44     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-10 13:39       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11  2:52         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11  7:01           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11  7:31             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 15:47               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 16:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 16:09                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 16:14                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 16:33                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 16:44                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 17:03                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 17:50                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 18:18                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17  8:59                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 10:18                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 14:54                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 16:47                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 17:09                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 17:19                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 17:26                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 17:38                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 17:48                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 19:08                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 20:22                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18  8:40                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 11:26                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 11:37                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 11:44                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 12:00                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 12:47                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 12:51                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 18:44                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19  9:21                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19  9:26                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 10:12                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19 10:27                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 10:42                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19 13:46                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 17:18                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  8:36                                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 11:53                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 12:49                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19 12:56                                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:00                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:03                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 12:58                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:02                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:06                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:10                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:21                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:25                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:28                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:39                                                                                 ` Robert Pluĭm
2022-01-19 14:00                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:10                                                                                     ` Robert Pluĭm
2022-01-19 14:24                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:30                                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19 14:36                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:43                                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19 16:08                                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-19 16:47                                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19 16:51                                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 16:57                                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-19  9:25                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 11:51                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 12:54                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:01                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:06                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:11                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:16                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:25                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:31                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 13:35                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:36                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-19 13:57                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:06                                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-19 14:09                                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:13                                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-19 14:33                                                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:39                                                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-19 14:44                                                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 18:48                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 20:15                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-18 20:31                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:38                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 15:05                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 12:49                                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2022-01-19 12:59                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:35                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 14:59                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:56                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-18 14:55                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 13:55                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:14                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 14:28                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 14:57                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2022-01-19 15:45                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-19 16:58                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-19 18:25                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 17:42                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 17:46                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 15:22                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 15:25                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 15:53                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 16:31                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 16:52                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 16:57                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 17:02                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-17 17:04                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-16 18:14                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 18:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 18:34                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-01-16 18:44                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-16 17:53                         ` Achim Gratz
2022-01-17 17:13                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-17 17:43   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2022-01-17 19:06     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-20  8:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-01-20 15:25   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson

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