From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#15962: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 18:43:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <837gbtaj7f.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf086fc9-08da-463e-b98a-57d62c1438d4@default>
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 08:18:12 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: 15962@debbugs.gnu.org
>
> > Please try to gather a few more data points. It is important to know
> > if this happens with special frames, or with normal ones as well.
>
> What do you mean by "special frames"? Thumbnail frames are normal frames,
> as I described. They are just small.
You said they had no menu bar and no tool bar. So they are "special"
in that way.
> And I think, but am not sure, that I got the crashes also when
> clicking in a non-thumbnail frame.
That's why I said it's important to know whether this is indeed so.
> > > My unfounded guess is still that it is just the change of focus that
> > > provokes the crash.
> >
> > Then it would be a mystery, because then everybody on Windows should
> > have these crashes all the time.
>
> That doesn't follow. How many users use multiple frames? And how many
> use a standalone minibuffer frame? And yes, no doubt my
> `default-frame-alist' is different from most. And so on.
You said "just change of focus", which happens no matter how many
frames one has and how they are configured.
> > There's still something special to your configuration or usage
> > patterns, I think.
>
> Certainly my Emacs is highly customized. If the problem arises only
> with some one or more of the thousands of differences between my setup
> and `emacs -Q', good luck trying to guess which one or more setting
> differences might be revealing the Emacs bug?
You are taking this to the extreme. If indeed focus switch causes
this, I don't think customized options are a factor, because focus
switch event is handled by code that is mostly invisible to Lisp.
> Perhaps the code that produces the backtrace can be improved to give
> better info? If it essentially just says, "No idea; something crashed",
> then it isn't much help, at least in this case.
It says more than that, but not enough. Unfortunately, I don't know
how to make it better.
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2013-11-27 16:18 ` bug#15962: 24.3.50; emacs_backtrace.txt Drew Adams
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2013-11-28 2:24 ` Drew Adams
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2013-11-28 5:41 ` Drew Adams
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2013-11-27 5:59 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-27 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-27 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-11-27 3:29 ` Drew Adams
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2013-11-25 15:53 ` Drew Adams
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2013-11-25 22:21 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-25 22:23 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-26 3:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2013-11-24 22:27 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-24 23:33 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-25 1:05 ` Drew Adams
2013-11-25 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-25 3:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-24 0:32 Drew Adams
2013-11-24 20:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
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