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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 14802@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: bug#14802: 24.3.50; (elisp) Multiple Terminals - what is a terminal attribute?
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:18:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8361onuej0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed6774e8-e43f-45cb-949c-1b792e5a40ab@default>

> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 20:03:52 -0800 (PST)
> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 14802@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> > > What kind of an Emacs thingie is a terminal attribute?
> > 
> > It's an attribute of a terminal object.
> 
> OK, that gives it a name.  Now how about saying what that
> is (in the manual)?
> 
> Either that or don't introduce the term - it is just vapor
> otherwise, and confusing.  Users can wonder what they're missing,
> and where to find it.

I really don't understand the purpose of this bug report, because this
very node is the answer to all your questions and gripes.  It
includes:

  . a full list of the attributes of a terminal object (directly below
    the single sentence you cited in your report)

  . documentation of functions that access those attributes, and

  . references to other nodes where related features and issues are
    described

What else is missing?

> If the text said "characteristics" or "qualities" or similar,
> users wouldn't wonder so much.  But "attribute" typically means
> something particular in software.  If what is meant here is the
> ordinary English use of the word then I suggest picking a less
> technical-sounding equivalent.
> 
> If what is meant really is something technical that is known
> as a terminal attribute (as one user, I really don't know),
> then that term either needs explaining or users should be
> sent elsewhere for info about it.

I see nothing wrong with the word "attribute".  In this very manual,
we have:

  . text attributes
  . face attributes
  . file attributes
  . package attributes
  . process attributes

What's wrong with having "terminal object attributes"?





  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-10 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2014-02-10  4:03       ` bug#14802: 24.3.50; (elisp) Multiple Terminals - what is a terminal attribute? Drew Adams
2014-02-10 16:18         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
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2014-02-10 19:27   ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10 19:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-07-05 20:34 Drew Adams
2014-02-08  6:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10  1:27   ` Drew Adams
2014-02-10  2:22     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10  3:43     ` Eli Zaretskii

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