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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: HaiJun Zhang <netjune@outlook.com>
Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 05:40:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <835zinbkct.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PS1PR03MB3606FEDEF8FA6C432E89FCB0B75A0@PS1PR03MB3606.apcprd03.prod.outlook.com> (message from HaiJun Zhang on Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:24:37 +0800)

> Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:24:37 +0800
> From: HaiJun Zhang <netjune@outlook.com>
> Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
> 
> Display combination of the prompt and the message is good but may be complex to implement it.

I explained in more detail how I suggested to implement thius: by
inserting the minibuffer contents before the message text.  What is
complex about that?

> What about display message transiently and then restore to prompt?
> 
> I see the doc string of minibuffer-message-timeout says: 
> 
>  How long to display an echo-area message when the minibuffer is active.
>  If the value is a number, it should be specified in seconds.
>  If the value is not a number, such messages never time out.
> 
> If minibuffer is active, the message will be displayed  for a moment(like 1s) and then disappears.
> If minibuffer is not active, the message will be displayed forever. I think this is simpler and also good for me.
> 
> What is the problem of this behaviour?

This is what the current code does, and the problem with that is that
some uses of 'message' don't expect the message to stay for 2 seconds,
and some expect it to stay forever.  This information is not explicit
in the call to 'message', so there's no way of communicating in down
to minibuffer-message.






  reply	other threads:[~2019-12-11  3:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-02 11:06 bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Stephen Berman
2019-12-02 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-02 23:00 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-03  0:15   ` Stephen Berman
2019-12-03  3:36   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-03 23:44     ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-04  3:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-04 23:16         ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-05  3:43           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06  0:10             ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-06  7:44               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-07 23:05                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-08  3:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08  5:18                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-08 21:50                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-09  3:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09  7:43                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-12-09 14:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 15:55                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11  7:32                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-12-11  7:35                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-12-11 16:30                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 16:28                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-24 16:30                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-12-24 17:50                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-09 23:45                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-10  3:36                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10  7:19                               ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-10 16:11                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10 17:52                                   ` Drew Adams
2019-12-10 17:51                                 ` Drew Adams
2019-12-10 16:34                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10 17:08                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-10 17:49                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10 17:57                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10 23:45                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-11 16:19                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 17:34                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-11 17:50                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 18:53                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-11 23:12                                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-12  4:39                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 22:45                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-13  8:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10 19:45                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-10 20:11                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-10 21:45                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-11  3:24                                     ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-11  3:40                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2019-12-11  3:59                                         ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-11 16:26                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12  4:33                                             ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-12  5:29                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 22:58                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-13  7:02                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-13  9:07                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 13:21                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-12-11  3:35                                 ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-11 16:11                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 16:42                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 23:24                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-12  5:36                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 11:08                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-12 23:07                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-13  8:46                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-11 23:28                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-12  5:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-12 23:12                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-13  8:57                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-14 23:10                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-15 15:35                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-15 23:59                                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-16 16:09                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-16 22:29                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-16 23:26                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-17  6:27                                                   ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-17 16:19                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-17 23:53                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-18  3:38                                                       ` HaiJun Zhang
2019-12-17 16:11                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-17 23:51                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-18 16:24                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-19  0:12                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-19 15:36                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-19 22:16                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-19 22:30                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-19 23:17                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20  7:34                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-19 22:52                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20  7:59                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-21 22:09                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-20  7:54                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-21 22:02                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-22 19:02                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-20 14:29                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-21 22:03                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-23 10:10                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-23 22:58                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-24  0:42                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-24 23:47                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-25 16:30                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-25 16:44                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-25 16:49                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18  0:59                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18  8:19                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-20 12:30                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-21 16:15                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-01-22  0:46                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-01-18  1:00                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-12-05 15:24         ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2019-12-05 16:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06  0:06           ` Juri Linkov
2019-12-06  7:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-12-06 17:15               ` Kévin Le Gouguec
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2019-12-10 17:53                                 ` Drew Adams

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