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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 65797@debbugs.gnu.org, dmitry@gutov.dev, philipk@posteo.net,
	mattias.engdegard@gmail.com, joseph@breatheoutbreathe.in
Subject: bug#65797: `buffer-match-p` should not use `func-arity`
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 09:13:19 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <831qdxu3y8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv5y3azfqw.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:57:59 -0400)

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: Joseph Turner <joseph@breatheoutbreathe.in>,  Philip Kaludercic
>  <philipk@posteo.net>,  Mattias Engdegård
>  <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>,
>   Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,  65797@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 11:57:59 -0400
> 
> >> Then how 'bout something like the patch below which changes the
> >> `&optional` into an `&rest` but tries to preserve compatibility with the
> >> old calling convention.
> > Personally, I figured that using &rest would already help with backward
> > compatibility to an extent.
> 
> I don't have a good intuition for how important backward compatibility
> is here, so I went for the "safe" choice.  But maybe we don't need to go
> that far.  The patch below keeps the same compatibility hack as we
> currently have but doesn't add any new compatibility, so it will break
> those uses where `buffer-match-p` is called without additional args but
> the predicate function still expects 2 args (where the second is always
> nil).  Indeed, that case seemes extremely unlikely.
> 
> Eli, Stefan, WDYT?

TBH, I have no way of assessing the risks in such a change.

Do we have to make this change on the release branch?  What bad things
will happen if we leave emacs-29 with no changes?  The discussion
thread is quite long, but my personal take from it is that the
arguments for making any changes in the current code are largely
theoretical and aesthetic.  Am I wrong?





  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14  6:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-07  7:53 bug#65797: 29.0.92; func-arity should not return (0 . many) with apply-partially Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-07 12:35 ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-07 15:11   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-07 15:17     ` Mattias Engdegård
2023-09-07 13:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-07 15:50 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08  4:40   ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08  6:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08 15:52       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 16:37         ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 17:18           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 18:16             ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 18:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-11 16:57           ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-11 18:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-12 18:30           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-08 17:01   ` bug#65797: `buffer-match-p` should not use `func-arity` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-12 18:28     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-13 21:50       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-14 13:47         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18  9:12           ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-18 11:55             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-18 17:23               ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-18 18:05                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-19  8:34                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 10:06                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-19 13:56                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-19 16:13                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-08  9:10                           ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-08 10:25                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-09 21:40                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-12  4:53                               ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-12 11:34                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-10-13 15:57                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-14  6:13                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2023-10-14 14:31                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-15  6:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-16 16:33                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-16 20:16                                           ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-10-19 12:18                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-21  2:52                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-15  0:45     ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-15  1:38       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-15 16:38         ` Dmitry Gutov
2023-09-15 17:54           ` Joseph Turner via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-15 18:00             ` Dmitry Gutov

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