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* bug#23078: 24.5; Query-replace case insensitive - do not prompt for do-nothing replacements
@ 2016-03-21 14:46 Ed Avis
  2022-05-12 16:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Ed Avis @ 2016-03-21 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 23078

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M-x query-replace is case insensitive by default.  You may sometimes
want to replace a string with another differing only in case, for
example changing 'aaa' to 'Aaa'.  But query-replace prompts for all
cases where a case-insensitive match for 'aaa' is found, even those that
already equal the destination string.

Here are the keypresses starting from 'emacs -Q' to reproduce:

a a a RET A a a RET ESC O A ESC O A ESC % a a a RET
A a a RET y

I suggest that if the search and replacement strings differ only in
case, then Emacs should prompt only where there is a real choice to be
made.  When the match of 'Aaa' is highlighted it makes no difference
whether you answer y or n; so Emacs should not waste the user's time
asking.

This does mean that the matches highlighted by query-replace differ from
those you would find with a normal case insensitive search, in these
specific circumstances where the search and replacement strings differ
only in case.  I think that is a fair tradeoff.


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* bug#23078: 24.5; Query-replace case insensitive - do not prompt for do-nothing replacements
  2016-03-21 14:46 bug#23078: 24.5; Query-replace case insensitive - do not prompt for do-nothing replacements Ed Avis
@ 2022-05-12 16:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-05-12 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ed Avis; +Cc: 23078

Ed Avis <eda@waniasset.com> writes:

> M-x query-replace is case insensitive by default.  You may sometimes
> want to replace a string with another differing only in case, for
> example changing 'aaa' to 'Aaa'.  But query-replace prompts for all
> cases where a case-insensitive match for 'aaa' is found, even those that
> already equal the destination string.
>
> Here are the keypresses starting from 'emacs -Q' to reproduce:
>
> a a a RET A a a RET ESC O A ESC O A ESC % a a a RET
> A a a RET y
>
> I suggest that if the search and replacement strings differ only in
> case, then Emacs should prompt only where there is a real choice to be
> made.  When the match of 'Aaa' is highlighted it makes no difference
> whether you answer y or n; so Emacs should not waste the user's time
> asking.
>
> This does mean that the matches highlighted by query-replace differ from
> those you would find with a normal case insensitive search, in these
> specific circumstances where the search and replacement strings differ
> only in case.  I think that is a fair tradeoff.

(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)

I think this might be more confusing than anything else.  And just
because the default replacement has no changes, you can (for instance)
`E' out and type in something else for that specific match.

So I don't think this would be a good idea as the default interface, and
I don't think many people would want to modify a user option for
something like this, so I'm closing this bug report as a "wontfix".

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