* bug#7270: 24.0.50; wish: emacs as WM: Being able to show arbitrary x-windows in emacs windows — as in ezbl, but universal.
@ 2010-10-22 23:42 Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-05-10 2:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Arne Babenhauserheide @ 2010-10-22 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 7270
I love the idea of integrating a browser into emacs via ezbl¹ which
needs xwidget², and I’d
like to see that idea taken to its full extend, making emacs not only my
main coding environment, but also my X11 window manager.
It already provides all the window management functions I need for a
tiling WM. The “only” thing missing is the option to show an X11-window
inside an emacs buffer. Just like I can read PDFs with emacs, but for
any kind of x-program. Currently I can run all console programn via M-x
shell or M-!. Then I could really run any program without ever really leaving
emacs.
It wouldn’t be able to provide as much integration as with other emacs
buffers, though.
¹: http://github.com/haxney/ezbl
²: http://github.com/jave/emacs/tree/xembed
Best wishes, and thanks for your great work on emacs!
Arne
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2010-10-22 on fluss
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10707000
configured using `configure '--prefix=/usr' '--host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--datadir=/usr/share' '--sysconfdir=/etc' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--libdir=/usr/lib64' '--build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' '--program-suffix=-emacs-24' '--infodir=/usr/share/info/emacs-24' '--with-crt-dir=/usr/lib64' '--without-compress-info' '--with-sound' '--with-x' '--without-gconf' '--without-xml2' '--with-toolkit-scroll-bars' '--with-gif' '--with-jpeg' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-tiff' '--with-xpm' '--without-imagemagick' '--with-xft' '--with-libotf' '--with-m17n-flt' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--without-hesiod' '--without-kerberos' '--without-kerberos5' '--with-gpm' '--with-dbus' 'build_alias=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-march=amdfam10 -O2 -pipe -mtune=amdfam10' 'LDFLAGS=''
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* bug#7270: 24.0.50; wish: emacs as WM: Being able to show arbitrary x-windows in emacs windows — as in ezbl, but universal.
2010-10-22 23:42 bug#7270: 24.0.50; wish: emacs as WM: Being able to show arbitrary x-windows in emacs windows — as in ezbl, but universal Arne Babenhauserheide
@ 2022-05-10 2:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-05-10 2:55 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-05-10 2:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arne Babenhauserheide; +Cc: 7270
Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@yahoo.de> writes:
> I love the idea of integrating a browser into emacs via ezbl¹ which
> needs xwidget², and I’d
> like to see that idea taken to its full extend, making emacs not only my
> main coding environment, but also my X11 window manager.
(I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved
at the time.)
Emacs gained xwidget support a few years back, so I'm closing this bug
report.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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* bug#7270: 24.0.50; wish: emacs as WM: Being able to show arbitrary x-windows in emacs windows — as in ezbl, but universal.
2022-05-10 2:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-05-10 2:55 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-10 3:36 ` Phil Sainty
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-05-10 2:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 7270, Arne Babenhauserheide
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Emacs gained xwidget support a few years back, so I'm closing this bug
> report.
N.B. that the bug report wasn't about xwidgets, it was about displaying
X windows in Emacs buffers.
But there in lies the problem: what if two Emacs windows want to display
the same X window at the same time? Or across different displays? The
former could be possible with clever use of the composite extension (and
the recently added scale and coordinate transforms), while the latter is
impossible to implement efficiently.
The X input extension (which is now on by default) will also interfere
with windows created by programs that don't understand it if they try to
parent themselves into a window tree created by Emacs.
So we don't want to add support for such a feature.
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* bug#7270: 24.0.50; wish: emacs as WM: Being able to show arbitrary x-windows in emacs windows — as in ezbl, but universal.
2022-05-10 2:55 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2022-05-10 3:36 ` Phil Sainty
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Phil Sainty @ 2022-05-10 3:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Arne Babenhauserheide; +Cc: 7270, Po Lu, Lars Ingebrigtsen
Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@yahoo.de> writes:
> I’d like to see that idea taken to its full extend,
> making emacs not only my main coding environment,
> but also my X11 window manager.
You're looking for EXWM then.
* https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm
* https://github.com/ch11ng/exwm/wiki
* https://github.com/johanwiden/exwm-setup
It has some nice features, such as the ability to translate
keys on a per-application basis, so that you can use familiar
keys in applications which don't support custom key bindings
(or indeed even in those which do).
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