From: Ken Brown <kbrown@cornell.edu>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 10257@debbugs.gnu.org, jari <jari.aalto@cante.net>
Subject: bug#10257: 23.3.1 Cygwin: network drives - file is write protected (false positive)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 22:27:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EE8178F.5040004@cornell.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7h1zan7y.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
On 12/13/2011 9:54 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> The code I'm talking about is near the beginning of the definition of
>> basic-save-buffer-2' in files.el:
>
> Thanks.
>
>> I'm not (yet) proposing a change. I'm simply asking what the rationale is
>> for calling `yes-or-no-p' and making the user confirm that s/he wants to try
>> to save the file.
>
> I'm not sure what was the intention, but I know that this code is
> triggered in cases such as:
> - running as root: write will always succeed.
> - saving to a read-only file that you own: while `write' will fail,
> you can make it succeed by changing the access rights (which is what
> tempsetmodes is for).
> - saving to a read-only file in a writable dir: write will fail, but
> you can make it succeed by calling unlink first [Not sure if this
> works in Emacs right now].
> In all these cases, Emacs is able to write the file, but the read-only
> bit expresses an intention not to modify the file so it makes sense to
> ask for confirmation.
There's a fourth case, and that's what led to the present bug report (by
Jari):
- saving to a file that is in fact writable, for which file-writable-p
gives the wrong answer.
> This said, the code you quote should never prevent you from saving
> a file, it should only ask for confirmation (i.e. it might be annoying
> but it shouldn't prevent you from getting your work done).
Jari was annoyed to the point where he felt he couldn't get his work
done. He's in a situation where file-writable-p will consistently
report that a file is not writable, but writing will in fact succeed. I
was trying to help him find a way to avoid having to repeatedly confirm
that he wants to save.
> But other than for the "running as root" case, the above two cases could
> replace the `file-writable-p' test with a `write-region' test:
> file-writable-p is documented (via POSIX's documentation of `access') to
> be an approximation, whereas `write-region' should reliably tell us
> whether we can write to the file.
So that sounds like a solution to Jari's problem. I'll leave it to him
to propose a patch along those lines.
Ken
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-14 3:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-09 18:23 bug#10257: 23.3.1 Cygwin: network drives - file is write protected (false positive) Jari Aalto
2011-12-09 20:33 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-10 9:58 ` jaalto
2011-12-13 12:18 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-13 14:00 ` jari
2011-12-13 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-13 15:12 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-13 19:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-13 20:16 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 2:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-14 3:27 ` Ken Brown [this message]
2011-12-14 8:01 ` Jari Aalto
2011-12-14 8:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 12:24 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 12:55 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 14:19 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 14:47 ` jari
2011-12-14 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 17:57 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15 2:43 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15 2:53 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15 3:19 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-15 4:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 14:42 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-16 19:37 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-16 19:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-16 23:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-12-17 17:08 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 14:15 ` jari
2011-12-14 14:29 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-14 14:43 ` jari
2011-12-14 17:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-14 17:23 ` Richard Stallman
2011-12-13 16:26 ` jari
2011-12-13 16:52 ` Ken Brown
2011-12-13 17:48 ` jari
2011-12-13 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-13 18:05 ` jari
2011-12-13 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-12-15 14:44 ` Jason Rumney
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