bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

[Eric Hanchrow]

I started Emacs with -Q.

I noted with pleasure that the displayed font was Courier, which I
like because it's monospaced.

I shift-left-clicked in the middle of the screen, and chose "decrease
buffer text size" from the menu that appeared.

I noticed that the font was now .. I dunno ... Ariel, I guess;
whatever it is, it ain't Courier and it ain't monospaced.  (It was,
however, smaller than what I'd started with, so that's something.)

For what it's worth, no similar problem happens on *nix, with an emacs as of

    Author: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
    Date:   Tue Mar 24 17:37:58 2009 +0000

	(Ffloat_time): Doc fix (Bug#2768).

Instead, Emacs initially starts with (what appears to be) Bitstream
Vera Sans Mono, and when I reduce its size, it's still the same font,
just smaller.

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
    `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
If you would like to further debug the crash, please read the file
c:/cygwin/usr/local/src/emacs/etc/DEBUG for instructions.


In GNU Emacs 23.0.92.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6001)
 of 2009-04-13 on ERICH-DEV
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.0.6001
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: ENU
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: cp1252
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Lisp Interaction

Minor modes in effect:
  text-scale-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  tool-bar-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  global-auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
C-- C-- C-- C-h c C-- C-h w t e x t - s c <tab> d <tab>
<return> <help-echo> <S-down-mouse-1> <S-down-mouse-1>
C-h c C-0 <S-down-mouse-1> M-x m e n u - s e <tab>
<return> <S-down-mouse-1> M-x r e [ p <backspace> <backspace>
p o r t - e m <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a.
C-- runs the command negative-argument
text-scale-decrease is not on any key
C-0 runs the command digit-argument

bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

[Jason Rumney]

Eric Hanchrow wrote:
> I started Emacs with -Q.
>
> I noted with pleasure that the displayed font was Courier, which I
> like because it's monospaced.
>
> I shift-left-clicked in the middle of the screen, and chose "decrease
> buffer text size" from the menu that appeared.
>
> I noticed that the font was now .. I dunno ... Ariel, I guess;
> whatever it is, it ain't Courier and it ain't monospaced.  (It was,
> however, smaller than what I'd started with, so that's something.)
>   

Please type C-u C-x = before and after decreasing the font size, and 
report exactly what fonts are used in each case.

> For what it's worth, no similar problem happens on *nix, with an emacs as of
>   

No similar problem happens on Windows here either, but if your original 
font really is the bitmap font "Courier" and not the scalable font 
"Courier New", then the problem might be that the original font is not 
available in the smaller size. If so, then it is probably possible to 
reproduce the bug on X using a non-scalable font.

bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

[Eric Hanchrow]

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> wrote:
> Please type C-u C-x = before and after decreasing the font size, and report
> exactly what fonts are used in each case.

Here's the info from before I shrank the font:

            character: ; (59, #o73, #x3b)
    preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
           code point: 0x3B
               syntax: < 	which means: comment
             category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
          buffer code: #x3B
            file code: #x3B (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1-dos)
              display: by this font (glyph code)
        uniscribe:-outline-Courier
New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1 (#x1E)

    Character code properties: customize what to show
      name: SEMICOLON
      general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

    There are text properties here:
      face                 font-lock-comment-delimiter-face
      fontified            t

And here's the info from after:

            character: ; (59, #o73, #x3b)
    preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
           code point: 0x3B
               syntax: < 	which means: comment
             category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
          buffer code: #x3B
            file code: #x3B (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1-dos)
              display: by this font (glyph code)
        uniscribe:-outline-Arial-normal-normal-normal-sans-11-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1
(#x1E)

    Character code properties: customize what to show
      name: SEMICOLON
      general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

    There are text properties here:
      face                 font-lock-comment-delimiter-face
      fontified            t

    [back]

For what it's worth, I couldn't reproduce the problem on Windows XP,
using Emacs as of

    commit a52d2b7...
    Author: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
    Date:   Sat Apr 25 15:27:45 2009 +0000

       * simple.el (line-move-visual): If point is stuck moving backwards
       against a display string, temporarily ignore the goal
       column (Bug#3020).

In that case, the output from C-u C-x = was

           character: ; (59, #o73, #x3b)
    preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
          code point: 0x3B
              syntax: <    which means: comment
            category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
         buffer code: #x3B
           file code: #x3B (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1-dos)
             display: by this font (glyph code)
       uniscribe:-outline-Courier
New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1 (#x1E)

    Character code properties: customize what to show
     name: SEMICOLON
     general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

    There are text properties here:
     face                 font-lock-comment-delimiter-face
     fontified            t

bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

[Eric Hanchrow]

For what it's worth: I just noticed that if I do M-x menu-set-font
RET, then choose BItstream Vera Sans Mono Regular 14, and _then_
decrease-text-scale, the newly-displayed smaller font is indeed
Bitstream.  That means this problem isn't as annoying as I originally
thought, because I generally run this command at the start of my
session anyway.

bug#3181: Fwd: bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

[Eric Hanchrow]

I accidentally sent the below to Jason and the entire list, rather
than to this bug report.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes
font family, not just font size
To: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org>, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> wrote:
> Please type C-u C-x = before and after decreasing the font size, and report
> exactly what fonts are used in each case.

Here's the info from before I shrank the font:

           character: ; (59, #o73, #x3b)
   preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
          code point: 0x3B
              syntax: <        which means: comment
            category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
         buffer code: #x3B
           file code: #x3B (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1-dos)
             display: by this font (glyph code)
       uniscribe:-outline-Courier
New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1 (#x1E)

   Character code properties: customize what to show
     name: SEMICOLON
     general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

   There are text properties here:
     face                 font-lock-comment-delimiter-face
     fontified            t

And here's the info from after:

           character: ; (59, #o73, #x3b)
   preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
          code point: 0x3B
              syntax: <        which means: comment
            category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
         buffer code: #x3B
           file code: #x3B (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1-dos)
             display: by this font (glyph code)
       uniscribe:-outline-Arial-normal-normal-normal-sans-11-*-*-*-p-*-iso10646-1
(#x1E)

   Character code properties: customize what to show
     name: SEMICOLON
     general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

   There are text properties here:
     face                 font-lock-comment-delimiter-face
     fontified            t

   [back]

For what it's worth, I couldn't reproduce the problem on Windows XP,
using Emacs as of

   commit a52d2b7...
   Author: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
   Date:   Sat Apr 25 15:27:45 2009 +0000

      * simple.el (line-move-visual): If point is stuck moving backwards
      against a display string, temporarily ignore the goal
      column (Bug#3020).

In that case, the output from C-u C-x = was

          character: ; (59, #o73, #x3b)
   preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
         code point: 0x3B
             syntax: <    which means: comment
           category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
        buffer code: #x3B
          file code: #x3B (encoded by coding system iso-latin-1-dos)
            display: by this font (glyph code)
      uniscribe:-outline-Courier
New-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-iso10646-1 (#x1E)

   Character code properties: customize what to show
    name: SEMICOLON
    general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)

   There are text properties here:
    face                 font-lock-comment-delimiter-face
    fontified            t

bug#3181: 23.0.92; Windows: text-scale-decrease changes font family, not just font size

[npostavs]

close 3181 
quit

> For what it's worth, I couldn't reproduce the problem on Windows XP,
> using Emacs as of
>
>     commit a52d2b7...
>     Author: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
>     Date:   Sat Apr 25 15:27:45 2009 +0000
>
>        * simple.el (line-move-visual): If point is stuck moving backwards
>        against a display string, temporarily ignore the goal
>        column (Bug#3020).

I guess it's okay to close now then...