* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
@ 2012-05-27 17:09 Drew Adams
2012-06-05 21:05 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-09 4:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2012-05-27 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 11568
1. `C-h w' does not tell the truth.
emacs -Q
C-x d RET
C-h w dired-do-chown
It says:
dired-do-chown is on O, <menu-bar> <operate> <chown>
But it is not on the `Operate' menu at all. Note that `O' works. It is
only the menu item that is missing.
2. Even after dired-aux is loaded, the menu is not updated to
include `dired-do-chown'. This is the case whether you use
`C-x v RET' or you open a completely new dired directory.
3. The same things are true for `dired-do-chgrp'. But they are not true
for `dired-do-touch'. And even after `emacs -Q', when dired-aux has not
been loaded, `dired-do-touch' shows in the menu (as it should, because
it is autoloaded).
In sum, `dired-do-touch' and `dired-do-chmod' are correctly in the menu,
but `dired-do-chgrp' and `dired-do-chown' are missing.
In GNU Emacs 24.0.97.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
of 2012-05-16 on MARVIN
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
Configured using:
`configure --with-gcc (4.6) --no-opt --enable-checking --cflags
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/include
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libXpm-3.5.8/src
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/libpng-dev_1.4.3-1/include
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/zlib-dev_1.2.5-2/include
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/giflib-4.1.4-1/include
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/jpeg-6b-4/include
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/tiff-3.8.2-1/include
-ID:/devel/emacs/libs/gnutls-3.0.9/include'
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2012-05-27 17:09 bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong Drew Adams
@ 2012-06-05 21:05 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-16 23:46 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-09 4:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-09 4:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2012-06-05 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 11568
I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my report.
It is normal for `dired-do-chown' and `dired-do-chgrp' not to be on the menu for
MS Windows. The bug is that `C-h w' says they are on the menu.
It would probably be more normal for those commands not simply to be defined and
raise an error on Windows, but to simply not be defined for Windows. That way,
there would be no disconnect between the key bindings and the menu (and C-h w).
And there would be no users trying to call a command that just raises an error
saying that the command is not available.
Thx.
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2012-06-05 21:05 ` Drew Adams
@ 2012-09-16 23:46 ` Drew Adams
2014-02-09 4:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2012-09-16 23:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 11568
ping
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2012-05-27 17:09 bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong Drew Adams
2012-06-05 21:05 ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-02-09 4:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2014-02-09 4:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 11568
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> 1. `C-h w' does not tell the truth.
>
> emacs -Q
> C-x d RET
> C-h w dired-do-chown
>
> It says:
> dired-do-chown is on O, <menu-bar> <operate> <chown>
>
> But it is not on the `Operate' menu at all. Note that `O' works. It is
> only the menu item that is missing.
>
> 2. Even after dired-aux is loaded, the menu is not updated to
> include `dired-do-chown'. This is the case whether you use
> `C-x v RET' or you open a completely new dired directory.
Works for me on the trunk...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2012-06-05 21:05 ` Drew Adams
2012-09-16 23:46 ` Drew Adams
@ 2014-02-09 4:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
[not found] ` <83txc8uv1k.fsf@gnu.org>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2014-02-09 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Drew Adams; +Cc: 11568
"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
> I was not as clear as I wanted to be in my report.
>
> It is normal for `dired-do-chown' and `dired-do-chgrp' not to be on the menu for
> MS Windows. The bug is that `C-h w' says they are on the menu.
>
> It would probably be more normal for those commands not simply to be defined and
> raise an error on Windows, but to simply not be defined for Windows. That way,
> there would be no disconnect between the key bindings and the menu (and C-h w).
Aha -- a W32-specific bug? Is this still present on the trunk?
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
[not found] ` <83txc8uv1k.fsf@gnu.org>
@ 2014-02-09 19:49 ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-09 20:00 ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-10 9:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-02-09 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 11568
Please don't assign things to the "w32" package.
In technical terms, it is a pseudo-package with no maintainer.
So all subsequent mails will go to the help-debbugs list rather than
bug-gnu-emacs.
The right thing is "emacs,w32" (I did that just now), but I suggest not
bothering with that either, since it just makes merging harder, for no
real gain.
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2014-02-09 19:49 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-02-09 20:00 ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-10 9:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-02-09 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 11568
PS If you are _really_ bored, TRT IMO is to get rid of the w32 and ns
packages entirely (for all open bugs), and convert them to usertags for
the "emacs" user instead.
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2014-02-09 19:49 ` Glenn Morris
2014-02-09 20:00 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2014-02-10 9:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-10 17:03 ` Glenn Morris
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2014-02-10 9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 11568
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> The right thing is "emacs,w32" (I did that just now), but I suggest not
> bothering with that either, since it just makes merging harder, for no
> real gain.
I keep forgetting. Perhaps debbugs-gnu should do that automatically?
> PS If you are _really_ bored, TRT IMO is to get rid of the w32 and ns
> packages entirely (for all open bugs), and convert them to usertags for
> the "emacs" user instead.
Uhm... I don't know what usertags are. >"?
Anyway, I think my cold is waning, so my rampage through the bug reports
should be tapering off. I hope people haven't been unduly bored by all
the emails on this mailing list the past few days.
1964 open non-wishlist bugs remain if anybody is inspired.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* bug#11568: 24.0.97; dired-aux.el menu items not there. `C-h w' is wrong.
2014-02-10 9:27 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2014-02-10 17:03 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2014-02-10 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 11568
Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>> The right thing is "emacs,w32" (I did that just now), but I suggest not
>> bothering with that either, since it just makes merging harder, for no
>> real gain.
>
> I keep forgetting. Perhaps debbugs-gnu should do that automatically?
Don't know what you mean. Just forget w32 ever existed as a package is
my advice.
>> PS If you are _really_ bored, TRT IMO is to get rid of the w32 and ns
>> packages entirely (for all open bugs), and convert them to usertags for
>> the "emacs" user instead.
I did that.
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