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* bug#54219: 26.3; Bidi and empty parentheses
@ 2022-03-02  5:26 Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  2022-03-03 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-03-02  5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 54219

--Recipe starting from emacs-Q:--

; Create a new buffer for general text, e.g. c.txt
C-x C-f c.txt RET
; Enter RTL character
insert-char 644 RET
; Enter rest of line
x()y

--Problem--
The result is that a flush-right line is produced that appears to read

y()xل

It should appear to read

x()yل

See https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2022-February/009984.html
and reply from Ken Whistler for confirmation that the observed
behaviour is wrong.

This misbehaviour is still present in Emacs 28.0.91 as built from the
tarball.  (Configuration not included.)

For the usage that prompted this report, several work-arounds are
available, including defining end of line as a paragraph boundary.
The Emacs display in that usage is also rendered baffling by Bug #27525
'Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs'.

--Configuration Data--

In GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.14)
 of 2020-03-26, modified by Debian built on lcy01-amd64-020
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version
11.0.12013000 System Description:	Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS

Configured using:
 'configure --build x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr
 --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --libexecdir=/usr/lib
 --localstatedir=/var/lib --infodir=/usr/share/info
 --mandir=/usr/share/man --enable-libsystemd --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/26.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/26.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --build
 x86_64-linux-gnu --prefix=/usr --sharedstatedir=/var/lib
 --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var/lib
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 --with-pop=yes
 --enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/26.3/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/26.3/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp
 --with-sound=alsa --without-gconf --with-mailutils --with-x=yes
 --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-toolkit-scroll-bars 'CFLAGS=-g -O2
 -fdebug-prefix-map=/build/emacs-mEZBk7/emacs-26.3+1=.
-fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security -Wall'
'CPPFLAGS=-Wdate-time -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2'
'LDFLAGS=-Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-z,relro''

Configured features:
XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS GLIB
NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 XDBE XIM THREADS LIBSYSTEMD LCMS2

Important settings:
  value of $LANG: en_GB.utf8
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: Text

Minor modes in effect:
  tooltip-mode: t
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Load-path shadows:
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* bug#54219: 26.3; Bidi and empty parentheses
  2022-03-02  5:26 bug#54219: 26.3; Bidi and empty parentheses Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
@ 2022-03-03 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2022-03-03 23:50   ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2022-03-03 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Wordingham; +Cc: 54219-done

> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2022 05:26:37 +0000
> From:  Richard Wordingham via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> 
> ; Create a new buffer for general text, e.g. c.txt
> C-x C-f c.txt RET
> ; Enter RTL character
> insert-char 644 RET
> ; Enter rest of line
> x()y
> 
> --Problem--
> The result is that a flush-right line is produced that appears to read
> 
> y()xل
> 
> It should appear to read
> 
> x()yل

Thanks, fixed for the upcoming Emacs 28.1.

> See https://corp.unicode.org/pipermail/unicode/2022-February/009984.html
> and reply from Ken Whistler for confirmation that the observed
> behaviour is wrong.

Unfortunately, that reply didn't really help, because it didn't
analyze the BPA details, which are crucial in this case.  (If you set
bidi-inhibit-bpa non-nil, the problem goes away.)  It just provided
the final output from Ken's program, which (as any other program) can
have bugs.

> For the usage that prompted this report, several work-arounds are
> available, including defining end of line as a paragraph boundary.
> The Emacs display in that usage is also rendered baffling by Bug #27525
> 'Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs'.

Not sure what paragraph boundaries have to do with this.  Sounds like
an unrelated issue.





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* bug#54219: 26.3; Bidi and empty parentheses
  2022-03-03 13:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2022-03-03 23:50   ` Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Richard Wordingham via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors @ 2022-03-03 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 54219-done

On Thu, 03 Mar 2022 15:59:32 +0200
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > For the usage that prompted this report, several work-arounds are
> > available, including defining end of line as a paragraph boundary.
> > The Emacs display in that usage is also rendered baffling by Bug
> > #27525 'Line wrapping of bidi paragraphs'.  
> 
> Not sure what paragraph boundaries have to do with this.  Sounds like
> an unrelated issue.

It relates to how the issue came to light.  Program output included
sequences composed of blank line, line of Arabic and then a sentence
starting off in ASCII and containing an empty pair of parentheses.  The
point was that fixing the error was not urgent; there were other ways
of fixing the problem.  The Emacs' default paragraphing rules are
simply wrong for the application.

Richard. 





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