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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'martin rudalics'" <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 1077@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#1077: 23.0.60; x-create-frame: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil)
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:17:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1D33F511D2FC4823A0A247189CB3395C@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CF55565.8020605@gmx.at>

>  > Why by design?  I mean why must that be the design?  No 
>  > menu-bar by default, I could understand.
> 
> I doesn't have to be designed that way.  But the minibuffer window is
> special so you would have to design a minibuffer-menubar with its own
> keymap.  That would be a different design.

Minibuffer window or minibuffer frame?  The menu bar is for a frame, no?

What makes the minibuffer frame necessarily special wrt a menu-bar?

(The active minibuffer itself already has a menu-bar menu, `Minibuf', but that
is currently unavailable for the minibuffer frame, since that frame has no
menu-bar.)

>  > And I'm someone who would probably _not_ enable such 
>  > things for my own minibuffer frame.  I just don't see why
>  > we throw out the possibility.
> 
> I do.  Nobody's around to write such a thing.

Lack of resources has never prevented us from excluding the _possibility_.  Just
add it to the TODO list.

It makes perfect sense, in particular, that the `Minibuf' menu-bar menu should
be displayable when the minibuffer is active, and that is not the case now when
you use a standalone minibuffer frame.  I'd call that a bug.

But the fix for that particular bug need not necessarily be to allow a menu-bar
on the minibuffer frame.  An alternative (essentially a workaround) might be to
show the `Minibuf' menu in all frames whenever the minibuffer is active.

Aside from that (`Minibuf' menu support when you have a standalone minibuffer
frame), I think that we should add support for a menu-bar on a minibuffer frame
to the TODO list.

Whether and when particular things on the TODO list actually get done is a
question of resources.  Whether to put something on the TODO list should not be
a question of current resources.






  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30 20:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-03 17:22 bug#1077: 23.0.60; x-create-frame: (wrong-type-argument number-or-marker-p nil) Drew Adams
2008-10-04 16:38 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-22 16:46   ` bug#670: " Drew Adams
2009-10-06 16:19     ` Drew Adams
2010-11-27  2:52       ` Drew Adams
2010-11-27  8:22         ` bug#1077: " Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-27 16:15           ` Drew Adams
2010-11-27 20:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-27 23:32               ` Drew Adams
2010-11-28  7:21                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-28  9:50                   ` martin rudalics
2010-11-28 13:41                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-28 14:12                       ` martin rudalics
2010-11-28 17:29                         ` Drew Adams
2010-11-28 17:26                   ` Drew Adams
2010-11-28 17:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-28 18:42                       ` Drew Adams
2010-11-28 19:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-28 22:38                           ` Drew Adams
2010-11-28 20:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-11-28 19:40                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-28 19:46                       ` Drew Adams
2010-11-28 20:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-29 10:56                       ` martin rudalics
2010-11-29 18:58                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-29 20:14                           ` martin rudalics
2010-11-29 21:18                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-29 21:33                               ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30  4:05                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30  7:56                                   ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 11:23                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 14:01                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 15:11                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 15:56                                           ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 17:07                                             ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 17:57                                               ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 19:49                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 20:16                                                   ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 18:20                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 18:16                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 19:16                                               ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 17:05                                           ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 17:57                                             ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 18:27                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 19:50                                                 ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 20:18                                                   ` Drew Adams
2010-12-01  9:58                                                     ` martin rudalics
2010-12-01 15:13                                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-12-01 17:28                                                         ` martin rudalics
2010-12-01 18:19                                                           ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 19:49                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 20:17                                                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2010-11-30 18:18                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-01  9:58                                               ` martin rudalics
2010-12-01 17:21                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-01 15:05                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-11-30 11:42                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 15:42                                       ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 18:12                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-11-30 19:16                                           ` Drew Adams
2010-12-09 19:11                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-12-01 15:48                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-12-01 17:27                                       ` martin rudalics
2010-11-30 20:21 ` Drew Adams
2010-11-30 21:28   ` Eli Zaretskii

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