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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 43558@debbugs.gnu.org, "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>,
	"Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: bug#43558: [PATCH]: Fix (forward-comment 1) when end delimiter is escaped.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 23:34:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00dc580c-3b48-c185-9020-2cb2b7528884@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201122211353.GH5912@ACM>

Hi Alan,

On 22.11.2020 23:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> Coding up the Ruby block comments in syntax.c would involve string
> comparisons, for example, and would be an entirely new flavour inside
> that file.  It would involve examining individual letters rather than
> just their syntax.

It could be made to support a new syntax using a finite state machine, 
something like that. And the strings could be converted to such by the 
major mode. But you're right, it would be more difficult.

> By contrast, coding up the escaped NL in syntax.c was straightforward and
> natural.
> 
> Have you looked at the patch?

Yup.

It's not terrible, but it's still a bunch of new if/elses that one would 
need to grasp to maintain that code.

>>> Presumably ruby-mode handles these with syntax-table text properties
>>> applied to the = sign and the terminating d, which is a little clumsy,
>>> but not too bad, at the Lisp level.
> 
>> This is just two more regexps to search for (and propertize). I don't
>> expect that the slowdown from them is in any way perceptible.
> 
>> And the general point is that the Emacs syntax table structure doesn't
>> necessarily have to mirror the syntax of the C language.
> 
> Maybe not, but the point remains, that for this fix, a fix at the C level
> is objectively better than a fix at the Lisp level.  Furthermore, the C
> level change is already implemented and has been well tested.

Why is it objectively better?

With user experience (speed, latencies, etc) being equal or within the 
margin of error, I think it's more logical to go with simpler data 
structures and low level APIs.

Finally, as I recall you feel strongly about supporting older Emacs 
versions, a significant number of them. Doing that fix in Lisp would 
allow you to fix the bug for those versions too. Not just Emacs 28+.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-22 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-22  9:35 bug#43558: [PATCH]: Fix (forward-comment 1) when end delimiter is escaped Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-22 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-22 19:41   ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found] ` <handler.43558.B.160076736116422.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
2020-09-23  8:57   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-23  9:01 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-09-23 14:48   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-23 18:44     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-23 19:44       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-23 20:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 10:20       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-24 16:56         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-24 18:50           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-24 22:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-19 21:18           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-19 22:47             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 13:12               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 15:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 17:08                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 17:46                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-22 18:19                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 20:39                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-11-22 21:13                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 21:34                             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-11-22 22:01                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 23:00                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-05-13 10:38                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-13 14:51                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-05-16 13:53                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 11:17                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-28 18:52                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-11-22 23:10                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-11-22 15:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-22 17:03                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-24 18:52     ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2020-09-24 19:57       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-09-24 20:27         ` Michael Welsh Duggan

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