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From: Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be>
To: Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com>,
	Philip McGrath <philip@philipmcgrath.com>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Shepherd on Fibers
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 12:40:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <efb5c033c6bed0b88cde294bed030900524cde8b.camel@telenet.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86sfr1t5fj.fsf@163.com>

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Zhu Zihao schreef op di 29-03-2022 om 18:13 [+0800]:
> IMO the problem is not fork, you can't do anything useful to create
> subprocess without fork on *NIX systems.
> 
> fork is allowed to execute in multi-thread environment. It just don't
> care about other threads, it's safe and recommended if you only call
> execv after fork.
> 
> The problem is, Shepherd is too flexible and people can do so many
> things other than fork+exec in the startup of Shepherd service
> (unlike
> systemd, only create subprocess is allowed). So Shepherd has to be
> conservative.
> 

Being conservative is not sufficient.  What if, in-between 'fork' and
'exec', some memory is allocated (and hence, in typical 'malloc'
implementations, locking happens)?

Greetings,
Maxime.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-29 10:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-23 22:36 The Shepherd on Fibers Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-25 13:29 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-03-26 21:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 11:06 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 11:09   ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-26 11:16     ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-26 11:18     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 11:27       ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-26 16:56         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 11:59   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-26 16:52     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 18:20       ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 11:44   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 12:03 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 12:11 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:48   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 16:26     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-30 15:14       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-30 17:16         ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-26 12:16 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:50   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 12:52     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:54     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 15:29       ` Attila Lendvai
2022-03-30 10:05         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-31  4:33         ` adriano
2022-03-31  7:56           ` Attila Lendvai
2022-03-26 12:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 13:03   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 19:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29  0:14 ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-29  0:22   ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-29  9:36   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 11:11     ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-30 10:00       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 10:13   ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-29 10:40     ` Maxime Devos [this message]
2022-03-30  9:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 13:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
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2022-03-24  6:48 Brendan Tildesley
2022-03-24 16:57 Nathan Dehnel

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