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From: Zhu Zihao <all_but_last@163.com>
To: "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de>
Cc: guix-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The Shepherd on Fibers
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 19:27:00 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <861qypq79p.fsf@163.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220326111834.zwqeswbc7vrsl4bz@pelzflorian.localdomain>

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IIUC, After fork and execute the program, shepherd will wait for the pid
file to appear. This is a block operation.

Shepherd on Fiber make this operation non-blocking (because the pid file
is created by Linux kernel, Shepherd just need to wait for it), every
service activation runs on its own fiber. after fork+exec, shepherd
suspend current fiber, andspawn another fiber to start another service
immediately.

But finally all fibers are co-operatively scheduled on 1 thread.

"pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" <pelzflorian@pelzflorian.de> writes:

> On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 07:09:12PM +0800, Zhu Zihao wrote:
>> > So shepherd service authors still cannot write blocking code but need
>> > to yield?
>> 
>> IMO, service should not block service, if they have something important
>> to do before running a program, why not fork first and do it in the
>> child-process (maybe wrap the actual startup program in Guile script)?
>
> In other words, all stays the same as without fibers?
>
> Regards,
> Florian


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-26 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-23 22:36 The Shepherd on Fibers Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-25 13:29 ` Maxim Cournoyer
2022-03-26 21:28   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 11:06 ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 11:09   ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-26 11:16     ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-26 11:18     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 11:27       ` Zhu Zihao [this message]
2022-03-26 16:56         ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 11:59   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-26 16:52     ` pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)
2022-03-26 18:20       ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 11:44   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 12:03 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:47   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 12:11 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:48   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 16:26     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-30 15:14       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-30 17:16         ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-26 12:16 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:50   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 12:52     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 12:54     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 15:29       ` Attila Lendvai
2022-03-30 10:05         ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-31  4:33         ` adriano
2022-03-31  7:56           ` Attila Lendvai
2022-03-26 12:44 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 13:03   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-26 19:24 ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29  0:14 ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-29  0:22   ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-29  9:36   ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-29 11:11     ` Philip McGrath
2022-03-30 10:00       ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 10:13   ` Zhu Zihao
2022-03-29 10:40     ` Maxime Devos
2022-03-30  9:49   ` Ludovic Courtès
2022-03-29 13:16 ` Ludovic Courtès
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2022-03-24  6:48 Brendan Tildesley
2022-03-24 16:57 Nathan Dehnel

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