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From: Catonano <catonano@gmail.com>
To: Mike Gerwitz <mtg@gnu.org>
Cc: guix-devel <guix-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: npm (mitigation)
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:45:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ98PDx4QqYjz3u-VNrxKTFDinVOVC6eD0LRkA5Zvs3UH3G79Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871spi5q5g.fsf@gnu.org>

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Mike,

2017-07-15 5:34 GMT+02:00 Mike Gerwitz <mtg@gnu.org>:

> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 13:57:30 +0200, Jelle Licht wrote:
> > Regardless, the biggest issue that remains is still that npm-land is
> mired
> > in cyclical dependencies and a fun-but-not-actually unique dependency
> > resolving scheme.
>
> I still think the largest issue is trying to determine if a given
> package and its entire [cyclic cluster] subgraph is Free.  That's a lot
> of manual verification to be had (to verify any automated
> checks).  npm's package.json does include a `license' field, but that is
> metadata with no legal significance, and afaik _defaults_ to "MIT"
> (implying Expat), even if there's actually no license information in the
> repository.


 in my idea I would have build a database withh conditions for being non
free forr every npm package.

So we could have queried the database for questions like: is there any non
free or non buildable package in the dependency tree of, say, the current
Jquery ?

So we could have focused on such problems before embarking in a demanding
packaging process and then get struck by said problem along the way (withh
the risk of loosing the work already done)

You might remember my post of a few months back about an attempt of mine to
crawl thhe npm registry and storing data found there.

I used amz3's wrap around Wiredtiger and that was probably not the best
choice as I run into some maturity problems (maturity both of the framewrok
and my own maturity).

And then I slacked a bit

I also posted more recently about a research team that published a SPARQL
endpoint containing data about the npm packages

I thought it would be important but the feedback I collected was not
exactly warm

So I thought there must be some fundamental flaw in my way of thinking
about a more data centric way of dealing with this

Now I'm not sure what Jelle is talking about but any approach that cold be
shared among at least 2 persons would be a progress, in my opinion.

Jelle, please, say something more about whaht you're doing !

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-17  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-14  8:52 npm (mitigation) Catonano
2017-07-14 11:57 ` Jelle Licht
2017-07-15  3:34   ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-07-15  3:57     ` Jelle Licht
2017-07-15 17:39       ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2017-07-15 16:51     ` Adonay Felipe Nogueira
2017-07-17  9:45     ` Catonano [this message]
2017-07-18  2:12       ` Mike Gerwitz
2017-07-17  9:28   ` Catonano
2017-07-24 15:39     ` Ricardo Wurmus
2017-07-25  6:37       ` Catonano
2017-07-14 17:11 ` Jan Nieuwenhuizen
2017-07-17  9:32   ` Catonano

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