From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ulf Stegemann Subject: Re: [IDEA] HTML-export literal examples to textarea Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:56:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: <0F3A5DC4-D191-472D-BCA6-7978CEB308F9@uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LOpvf-0002k9-RQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:56:19 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LOpvd-0002jx-De for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:56:18 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47246 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LOpvd-0002ju-91 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:56:17 -0500 Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:55869 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LOpvc-0001ks-Rn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:56:17 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LOpvX-0006AB-2N for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:56:11 +0000 Received: from london.zeitform.net ([146.140.213.100]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:56:11 +0000 Received: from ulf-news by london.zeitform.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:56:11 +0000 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Jan 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: > >> Hi Carsten, >> >> Carsten Dominik wrote: >> >>> On Jan 16, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote: >>> >>>> Is it worth thinking about an example block that will be exported to a >>>> "

" structure in HTML export? >>>> >>>> I was recently playing around with org for online documentation. The >>>> documents contained lots of literal examples that can be directly copied >>>> and pasted e.g. into a terminal emu. While example- and src blocks work >>>> fine, I think that putting this kind of information into a textarea >>>> would be even better. >>> >>> Hi Ulf, so far I fail to see what the big advantage would be. Can >>> you try again to explain? >> >> of course. Generally, selecting text is a bit easier inside an input box >> but the very real advantage is that you can edit inside inputs. This >> allows to give literal examples with "variables" that can be changed >> directly inside the page before being copied and pasted. > > Hmmm, but why would you want to edit them in the text window, if you > will paste them into an editor anyway, where you probably can edit > them a lot easier? Or are you talking about pasting examples > directly into an interpreter input stream? yes, in the concrete case the documentation was about a rather complex system and software setup and the "examples" were mainly meant to be copied and pasted directly into an terminal emu ... with variable things like host-, path-, user names an so on. Of course, one could paste this in an editor first to change something but as the changes would be rather minimal this would prove to be a bit clumsy. Actually nobody seems to do it like this. I asked the target group how they handle this and they told me, they just selected the text up to the first variable, pasted it into the terminal, typed their variable value into the terminal and then selected the rest of the example to complete their command line(s). Ulf