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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 12C15371F4 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx12.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -5.79 X-Spam-Score: -5.79 X-TUID: J4MtqMXrKDE1 On 12/07/2024 23:34, Sébastien Gendre wrote: > Max Nikulin writes: >> See specific store link functions, e.g. `org-gnus-store-link'. > > Reading the `org-gnus-store-link' function, I see that is set: type, > file, node, link and description. I see :from :to :subject :message-id :group, :date. Other keywords mentioned in the manual are added by `org-link-store-props'. > I wonder if I can write an Elisp function that retrieve all the > properties set for each org link types and tell we at which mode they > are used. After all, with Elisp code could be data too. It may require non-trivial analysis of code. > I think I will need to make another subprotocol. > Maybe a "capture-plus" that will accept any keys and make all of them > accessible as a '%:keymord'. I do not think there is any blocker that does not allow you to define your own subprotocol. If you find it useful then you will have opportunity to contribute it. >> Not all books have authors in metadata. Some have editors since every >> chapter has its own author. To avoid handling such logic in capture >> templates I decided to resort to formatting inside an extension (or >> formatting performed by a dedicated tool if site has API, e.g. >> GitHub). > > Can you tell me more about this ? What particular you are interested in? Are you surprised that some books have several authors and some do not have it in citations? I believe that elisp code embedded into capture templates is inconvenient to debug, that is why I prefer to run formatter in some other way. >> If you are using Emacs-30 I would suggest to keep away from >> org-protocol hacks and to rely on `server-eval-args-left' handled by a >> dedicated function >> >> emacsclient --eval '(my-capture)' 'my-proto://something?param=value' >> >> For older versions you may either use backslash hell like in >> emacsclient-mail.desktop or to define custom subprotocol for >> org-protocol. > > Is there any change planned for org-protocole in Emacs 30 ? I do not expect it. Almost certainly only important fixes will be committed to that branch. > The big advantage for org-protocole, is that it's based on an URL that > any external software can recognize and pass to Emacs and it's easy to > write a custom sub-protocole. `server-eval-args-left' allows to do the same without a set of ugly enough hacks that were unavoidable to make org-protocol working.