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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Scanner: mx2.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.06 X-Spam-Score: 2.06 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 4347132DA3 X-TUID: 6TUeKT92FgUP On 24/08/2023 19:21, Ihor Radchenko wrote: > As I described, I often want inlinetasks to be exported and to be > displayed in my agenda/sparse tree views It sounds like that if agenda had hooks allowing to gather either :inlinetask:...:end: drawers or #+begin_inlinetask...#+end_inlinetask custom blocks then ************** END would not be necessary.