From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp10.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id YHA+ABWRrWOUDwEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 14:07:33 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp10.migadu.com with LMTPS id eNfZOhSRrWMNpQAAG6o9tA (envelope-from ) for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 14:07:32 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3FA111CF3 for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 14:07:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAsK3-0003xP-19; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 07:47:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAsK0-0003xE-Do for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 07:47:44 -0500 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pAsJy-00049z-En for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 07:47:43 -0500 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pAsJw-0001tI-1o for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2022 13:47:40 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org From: Max Nikulin Subject: Re: section continuation Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:47:32 +0700 Message-ID: References: <2a8c15a7047e6dd4979b311a5c373255@bitrot.link> <9ceaa25e9e84c9c2db5cb385c51eb1db@bitrot.link> <248c92c57142c9119ce0b6f51b41da46@bitrot.link> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <248c92c57142c9119ce0b6f51b41da46@bitrot.link> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geo-emacs-orgmode@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 14 X-Spam_score: 1.4 X-Spam_bar: + X-Spam_report: (1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD=1, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.309, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.149, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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I.e. > Skip folding of lone-dash sections when folding all the sections at > their level. > Unfold them when unfolding the containing section. > Skip them when jumping to next/previous section. > Skip numbering them. > Display them at one level shallower than currently standard in > org-indent-mode. - Various operations with subtrees: kill, yank, refile - Getting refile/goto targets and perhaps more functions spread over Org .el files. That is why it is hardly viable as a 3rd party extension. It still would be a tree, but with interleaved block-level text elements and subheadings, while currently subheadings must follow heading text. What is more close to graph is org-transclusion. Certainly more liberal structure may confuse readers. It has advantages for early drafts and notes more close to mind maps. During collection of notes it can not be anticipated which peace of information will be expanded with a lot of details. Before publishing document should be reworked to make it more linear. HTML documents may be more interactive and have more decorations than printed papers, so I am unsure concerning the export common denominator argument. There is a variant of continue parent section for poors: create a 1 level deeper subsection " (continued)". I am still in doubts if increased complexity and performance impact outweigh benefits.