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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Autoloading side effects (was: Re: [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 23:20:19 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <tn7kc4$re0$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qp4j4vn.fsf@localhost>

On 12/12/2022 17:25, Ihor Radchenko wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
>>
>> I am afraid, requirement that loading should not cause side effects is
>> too strict and it will make usage inconvenient. Examples:
>> - ol-info calls `org-link-set-parameters'.
> 
> We have `org-modules' that can handle calling `org-link-set-parameters'.

Sorry, but I have not got your idea. Currently `org-modules' is just a 
list of packages that should be loaded with org.el.

It is possible to introduce some convention either in Org or in Emacs to 
add default action for a package. Then in addition to just loading a 
package (with no side effects) a set of functions should be implemented 
that loads and *activates* the package.

>> - org-protocol installs an advice for `server-visit-files'. (It should
>> not be necessary, but currently Emacs does not provide a better option.)
> 
> Can we ask Emacs devs to help us with this problem?

org-protocol may use approach similar to emacsclient-mail.desktop 
without advice:

Exec=sh -c "exec emacsclient --alternate-editor= 
--display=\\"\\$DISPLAY\\" --eval \\\\(message-mailto\\\\ 
\\\\\\"%u\\\\\\"\\\\)"

By adding another bunch of backslashes and a bit more complex shell 
command it is possible to avoid at least obvious issues with the command 
above.

Actually I have created

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=59743
Implement `command-line-args-left' for emacsclient --eval expressions

but I was too late to the party. The discussion in

https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=57752
28.1.91; emacsclient-mail.desktop doesn't work for me

was stalled with no outcome.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-12 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-11  3:25 [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require Matt Lundin
2022-12-11  3:49 ` Greg Minshall
2022-12-11  4:38 ` Samuel Wales
2022-12-11  9:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-11 14:49   ` Autoloading side effects (was: Re: [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require) Max Nikulin
2022-12-12 10:25     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-12 16:20       ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-12-13  9:52         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-13 14:32           ` [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require Max Nikulin
2022-12-14  9:59             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-12-12 15:42     ` Autoloading side effects (was: Re: [BUG] org-mouse is activated without explicit require) Matt Lundin

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