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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-To: larch@yhetil.org X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1653662359; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=g/ZYA8lP5dCzFJaFOLcxb7sNCfmTlBdNOjzPPq9VpHA=; b=TJigv2Wj7BP0eNCHSDy2F1VehyQQVzV1cQ5WvgLHGiLPfNXdg0i+uEwP09qcsGiEHMhg4j XrGpRFWWaz1MLVA4R9DBFvnILZK9SWixCZj/Xa/nrl6ETygmprVsTcC8vkiQ3DcE3i6aLv n0qcNztyzKa97nQnKboBpVEKnk53DVv0j2STrvgqk91RGcniIXpuu8QiX3eWB2y8OuWoSE 3ad5tihv13ph7jiDdfSoKWUEpnpGtA1qzM3XI9KFDOxnixi4EIii6I5AX1vKygRzrv/UCM YbSywZmXzAfGjT7BnJUvsaRPxlRztuVc+TE5GMtf1Iy0phcH/Lw6kA+PXY79wQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1653662359; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=OfAgiw8mUdWUE3WbAJouDGYh75LAuzTLUifiBr/3en0qY5UyIrKB4Q0c7KoEoB7T5nDIko Jr8rggZ5tStYVIYvbKBTpU2NlsHpf2wKf2Fqhv8q8g2vyMLQr3bulZIF9OFOBPsJiShulQ IaNQlgEjnaUDNbRM4iSh89NyQZdePOf+OqCSxCxFHEOKxKzUEwmkL7Z6kmOn0jD/132x79 y+fK84jDYsVfkxNb8PCFXFri2c/SuAzjdEfiSBERkecI15B9JSsFHN+il/uJgYsVsd5Mc5 b2FkYltnCEPTHd650NMgDfDZpPTscwYujCoYPbybo3rGjcmgawscF6TThm7nog== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 2.35 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed), No valid DKIM" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none); spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: ABC9B2EDEB X-Spam-Score: 2.35 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: l1EAFc9yaQol On 27/05/2022 19:17, Arthur Miller wrote: > Ihor Radchenko writes: >> >> Is there any reason why you dislike transient (now part of Emacs core)? > > It is not about me disliking transient, I am sure it is a great library. It is > more about simplicity and efficiency. Entire org-capture is ~2/3 of the size of > transient alone, and as an org user I have org-mode loaded almost always, while > I don't have transient loaded, since I am using magit very, very rarely, which I > believe is the only consumer of transient in my Emacs. So it is more about > lightness and efficiency. > > '(("key1" "label1" exec (lambda () ...)) > ("key2" "label2" exec (labmda () ...)) > ... > ) If you are seeking simplicity, I suppose, `completing-read' should be more than enough. TAB shows list of options and it is quite similar to menu. I have seen `org-mks' function but I am unsure if it will suite for you to define capture-like interface. I do not think, you patch should be applied. Org-capture is a particular case of menu-like interface, but its purpose is capture and that should not be abused. I can not say that I really like org-capture UI. It blocks other windows and frame. I believe, menu windows should just define own keymap without affecting of minibuffer.