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To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: lin Sun <sunlin7@yahoo.com>, Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com>, Bastien
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] before emit an error message, try to load the babel
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Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net> writes:

> Ruijie Yu <ruijie@netyu.xyz> writes:
>
>>> 1. `setopt' already triggers loading when variable is set. It is just
>>>    `setq', often used in place of `setopt', that does not trigger
>>>    loading/unloading.
>>
>> Speaking of which, since we now (or are about to?) depend on compat, we
>> can just do (require 'compat) and forget that `setopt' is an Emacs 29
>> addition.
>
> No. Compat does not support and does not plan to support `setopt' (see
> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/compat.html#Limitations).
> And it is not us who needs to use `setopt', but users.
> We just have to deal with de facto situation with users using `setq'
> mindlessly.

Makes sense.  So, does that mean nothing should be changed, except for
maybe some additions to documentation mentioning that the users should
avoid using `setq' to set customizable variables, and instead use
`setopt' if >= 29, or [some function in cus-edit.el which I don't
recall] otherwise?

-- 
Best,


RY

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