* Org Mode Research @ 2017-01-07 18:25 Ted Wiles 2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye 2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Ted Wiles @ 2017-01-07 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 264 bytes --] Org Moders, I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your perspective. Here's the survey link: https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3 If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for all to see! Best Regards, Ted [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 461 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 18:25 Org Mode Research Ted Wiles @ 2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye 2017-01-07 19:54 ` John Hendy 2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode FYI, the survey appears to be market research for non-GPL vaporware. Ted Wiles writes: > Org Moders, > > I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your > perspective. Here's the survey link: > > https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3 All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 19:54 ` John Hendy 2017-01-07 20:16 ` Kaushal Modi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: John Hendy @ 2017-01-07 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Ted Wiles On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote: > FYI, the survey appears to be market research for non-GPL vaporware. Why the assumption of non-GPL? Just because web-based Org is hinted at and leading/feature hunting questions are a common trait of someone not wanting to reveal a commercial project? Theoretically it could just be a hobby project being looked into, right? Just curious. John > > Ted Wiles writes: > >> Org Moders, >> >> I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your >> perspective. Here's the survey link: >> >> https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3 > > All the best, > Tom > > -- > Thomas S. Dye > http://www.tsdye.com > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 19:54 ` John Hendy @ 2017-01-07 20:16 ` Kaushal Modi 2017-01-07 21:19 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Kaushal Modi @ 2017-01-07 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: John Hendy, Thomas S. Dye; +Cc: emacs-org list, Ted Wiles [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 407 bytes --] I find that project interesting, and something that could bridge the gap between emacs and non-emacs org mode users. What suggests that this is non-GPL and 'vaporware'? @Ted: It would be nice if this can be developed as part of GNU org-mode. On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Thomas S. Dye <tsd@tsdye.com> wrote: > > FYI, the survey appears to be market research for non-GPL vaporware. > -- Kaushal Modi [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 847 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 20:16 ` Kaushal Modi @ 2017-01-07 21:19 ` Thomas S. Dye 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kaushal Modi; +Cc: emacs-org list, Ted Wiles Aloha Kaushal Modi, Kaushal Modi writes: > I find that project interesting, and something that could bridge the gap > between emacs and non-emacs org mode users. > > What suggests that this is non-GPL and 'vaporware'? No mention of GPL, still looking at which features of Org mode to be implemented. Ted can correct me if my impression is wrong. I agree with you the project is interesting. All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 18:25 Org Mode Research Ted Wiles 2017-01-07 19:39 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter 2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Colin Baxter @ 2017-01-07 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hello On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Ted Wiles wrote: > Org Moders, > > I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your perspective. Here's the > survey link: > > https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3 > > If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for all to see! > > Best Regards, > Ted I would want to see much more information about the motive and people behind the Survey before I would take part. Sorry. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 20:43 ` Colin Baxter @ 2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles 2017-01-07 23:06 ` Thomas S. Dye 2017-01-07 23:47 ` John Hendy 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Ted Wiles @ 2017-01-07 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Colin Baxter; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2253 bytes --] Thanks all! For context, I just started implementing org-mode workplanning at my job (personal user since 2007) and it's increased my productivity 10x. As I manage others I was curious about hearing about how others use org-mode in a team setting. While I was at it, I thought that it would be helpful and interesting to get a gut-check on the basic idea I was thinking of implementing to collaborate with my team. Some preliminary findings of interest: - Tags are unpopular, only 56% of people use them. Especially surprising as 70% use source-code blocks. - Largest barrier to further org mode usage is a lack of emacs expertise. Not really a surprise here. - 75% of people put their org-mode files under git version control. - We are all big promoters of using org-mode with the people we work with, and highly skeptical of their ability and desire to realize these benefits :) - mobile and calendar integration have come up as major pains multiple times in free responses I am hoping to condense findings into a pithy summary and post on github (or worg, although I've never figured out how to do that easily) so that everyone can see. I also think the term "market research" significantly overestimates my ability / desire to execute on this :) I get the concern on GPL vs. non-GPL, I also really like org mode as it fundamentally gives me control over my own data, but given where this is right now (a google forms survey) I think it's kind of a moot discussion. And yes, I know that the survey isn't very good, and that there are typos, and that certain things could have been asked better! I have made some revisions incorporating some of these comments. Thanks again, Ted On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> wrote: > Hello > > On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Ted Wiles wrote: > > > Org Moders, > > > > I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your > perspective. Here's the > > survey link: > > > > https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3 > > > > If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for > all to see! > > > > Best Regards, > > Ted > > I would want to see much more information about the motive and people > behind the Survey before I would take part. Sorry. > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3048 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles @ 2017-01-07 23:06 ` Thomas S. Dye 2017-01-07 23:47 ` John Hendy 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: Colin Baxter, emacs-orgmode Aloha Ted, Ted Wiles writes: > I also think the term "market research" significantly overestimates my > ability / desire to execute on this :) I'm curious why you chose to introduce your survey as "I'm doing a market research project on org mode users ..." if you think the term overestimates your ability and/or desire to execute? All the best, Tom -- Thomas S. Dye http://www.tsdye.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Org Mode Research 2017-01-07 21:28 ` Ted Wiles 2017-01-07 23:06 ` Thomas S. Dye @ 2017-01-07 23:47 ` John Hendy 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: John Hendy @ 2017-01-07 23:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ted Wiles; +Cc: Colin Baxter, emacs-orgmode On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Ted Wiles <theodore.wiles@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks all! [snip] > I get the concern on GPL vs. non-GPL, > I also really like org mode as it fundamentally gives me control over my own > data, but given where this is right now (a google forms survey) I think it's > kind of a moot discussion. But which is it; you get the concern but don't answer either way? I take this to imply that if this *does* bloom into something it will be non-GPL? John > > Thanks again, > Ted > > > > On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Colin Baxter <m43cap@yandex.com> wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> On Sat, Jan 07 2017, Ted Wiles wrote: >> >> > Org Moders, >> > >> > I'm doing some research on org mode usage and would love to hear your >> > perspective. Here's the >> > survey link: >> > >> > https://goo.gl/forms/9I0uL3Er2TuEszfH3 >> > >> > If I get enough responses, I'll be happy to post the results online for >> > all to see! >> > >> > Best Regards, >> > Ted >> >> I would want to see much more information about the motive and people >> behind the Survey before I would take part. Sorry. > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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