Cannot insert footnote here

Cannot insert footnote here

[Thomas S. Dye]

Aloha all,

The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
Does it need to be so restrictive?

 1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
      (unless (bolp) ...

 2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
      ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)

All the best,
Tom

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Re: Cannot insert footnote here

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:

> The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
> Does it need to be so restrictive?
>
>  1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
>       (unless (bolp) ...

It would be a footnote definition, not a footnote reference

>  2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
>       ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)

It was a bug, fixed in 7584200bb88b7995b87f065320886b0813de22dd. Thank
you.


Regards,

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Nicolas Goaziou

Re: Cannot insert footnote here

[Thomas S. Dye]

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Hello,
>
> tsd@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes:
>
>> The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
>> Does it need to be so restrictive?
>>
>>  1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
>>       (unless (bolp) ...
>
> It would be a footnote definition, not a footnote reference

OK

>
>>  2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
>>       ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)
>
> It was a bug, fixed in 7584200bb88b7995b87f065320886b0813de22dd. Thank
> you.

Fix confirmed.  Thanks!

All the best,
Tom

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Re: Cannot insert footnote here

[Vikas Rawal]

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> 
>> The function org-footnote--allow-reference-p seems to be restrictive.
>> Does it need to be so restrictive?
>> 
>> 1) Why not allow a footnote at the beginning of a line?
>>      (unless (bolp) ...
> 
> It would be a footnote definition, not a footnote reference
> 
>> 2) Why not allow a footnote at the end of a headline?
>>      ((memq type org-element-all-elements) nil)
> 
> It was a bug, fixed in 7584200bb88b7995b87f065320886b0813de22dd. Thank
> you.
> 

But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in headline. 

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>

How does one get that in Org?

Vikas


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Re: Cannot insert footnote here

[Thomas S. Dye]

Aloha Vikas,

Vikas Rawal <vikaslists@agrarianresearch.org> writes:

> But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX
> needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in
> headline.
>
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title
> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
>
> How does one get that in Org?

I don't know how to get \section[short]{long} with Org mode.

However, the footnote at the end of a headline is only a problem for
LaTeX export to LaTeX classes that use section titles in page headers or
a table of contents.

All the best,
Tom

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Re: Cannot insert footnote here

[Sebastien Vauban]

Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Vikas Rawal <vikaslists-gY6uWiqvZ+vta4EC/59zMGD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> writes:
>
>> But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX
>> needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in
>> headline.
>>
>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title
>> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
>>
>> How does one get that in Org?
>
> I don't know how to get \section[short]{long} with Org mode.

There is the ALT_TITLE property, which allows to set an alternate
(shorter, for example) title for a given headline.

Best regards,
  Seb

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Sebastien Vauban

Re: Cannot insert footnote here

[Thomas S. Dye]

Aloha Seb,

Sebastien Vauban <sva-news-D0wtAvR13HarG/iDocfnWg@public.gmane.org>
writes:

> Thomas S. Dye wrote:
>> Vikas Rawal <vikaslists-gY6uWiqvZ+vta4EC/59zMGD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>
>>> But a footnote at the end of a headline breaks LaTeX export. LaTeX
>>> needs an optional title as follows, to be able to include footnote in
>>> headline.
>>>
>>> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title
>>> <http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/47380/how-can-i-have-a-footnote-with-an-url-in-a-section-title>
>>>
>>> How does one get that in Org?
>>
>> I don't know how to get \section[short]{long} with Org mode.
>
> There is the ALT_TITLE property, which allows to set an alternate
> (shorter, for example) title for a given headline.

Thanks for this useful pointer.

All the best,
Tom

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