Re: new link parameters and link abbreviations

[John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>]

I can confirm this happens. I think it happens because the abbreviation
is not listed in org-plain-link-re, so when the bracket link is
activated, no type is ever defined (it is done by a group in the
org-plain-link-re). The type is somewhat fundamental to the activation
function, as it is used to look up all the link properties, and hence
you get the default help (and all other properties too).

I haven't thought of a simple fix though. It would involve adding the
abbreviations to the known link types, and some kind of lookup for when
the type in a link is not in org-link-parameters that resolves the type
to something in org-link-parameters. Since the abbreviations seem to
have quite flexible format, it isn't obvious how to do that robustly,
without changing the abbreviation syntax. 

I would suggest just defining short links ;) It seems like you can
probably build the abbreviation functionality into the follow function
right?


mc writes:

> Yes, with pleasure:
>
> Let's put it the most simple way:
>
>
> 1. Here is my new-link definition:
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (org-link-set-parameters "new-link" :help-echo "show new-link's help echo")
> #+end_src
>
> (it doesn't change matter, if there would be :follow or :store function etc.)
>
>
> 2. the 'tooltip' shows my :help-echo string as expected.
>
> [[new-link:awesome]]
>
>
> 3. Then I add the following abbreviation of the above link:
>
> #+begin_src emacs-lisp
>   (setq org-link-abbrev-alist '(("nl" . "new-link::%s")))
> #+end_src
>
>
> 4. the 'tooltip' does not work but shows the default:
>
> [[nl:awesome]]
>
>
> Hope that clarifies the issue.
>
>
> Thanks once more for your sustained patience making link handling much
> easier and more powerful!
> mc
>
>
>
>> On 20 Aug 2016, at 17:17, John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> that isn't a feature I have used too often. Could you post a small example that illustrates the problem? Thanks,
>> 
>> John
>> 
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>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:13 AM, mc <mc@aiguphonie.com <mailto:mc@aiguphonie.com>> wrote:
>> The new link parameters are fabulous!
>> 
>> Only the parameter ':help-echo' seems not to be respected, if a link is used by an abbreviated form as defined by the 'org-link-abbrev-alist'.
>> 
>> Would be nice, if this could be fixed.
>> 
>> Anyway, thank you for this big step forward,
>> mc
>> 


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