headings with begin/end markers

headings with begin/end markers

[bertie]

Hi -

I'm wondering if there's a way to treat a heading more like a block, such that 
it  has begin/end markers that explicitly mark its boundaries.

What I frequently find happening is that while I'm editing a heading, I have a 
need for a subtopic. Easy: C-<RET>, Tab. Now I want to keep editing at the same 
level that I was, but I don't want to introduce another topic (or a "Stuff, 
cont'd", etc) I just want to keep typing at the same context level.


Ideally, I'd like to just use curly braces to delimit section boundaries.
So something like this:

--------------

* Top

  This part of top

  * A sub heading {
 
    stuff in sub
    all this gets collapsed under 'A sub heading'

  }

  More stuff that's part of top.

---------------

Right now, when I hit TAB on 'A sub heading', it'll collapse all the rest of the 
text, as it should. How can I teach it just collapse up to the right brace?

Or any other suggestion for getting this fact - I realize this is starting to 
look more like XML than an outline - but would really like to get this behavior 
without having to leave orgmode.

Any pointers, suggestions - much appreciated!
-bertie

Re: headings with begin/end markers

[Samuel Wales]

Hi bertie,

I don't know, but we've discussed this recently.

Perhaps it will be possible at some point to insert an inline task and
have it behave as you desire.

Samuel

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Re: headings with begin/end markers

[bertie]

Samuel Wales <samologist <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> Hi bertie,
> 
> I don't know, but we've discussed this recently.
> 
> Perhaps it will be possible at some point to insert an inline task and
> have it behave as you desire.
> 
> Samuel
> 


Thanks, Samuel. I did read up on inline tasks, while they have the begin/end
structure, they're not really part of the structure of the document.

Can you point me to the discussion or thread title about this feature - did a few
searches first but couldn't find anything that looked like what I was talking 
about, probably because I'm not describing it in the right terms.

Thanks,
-bertie

Re: headings with begin/end markers

[Matt Lundin]

bertie <bertie@mailinator.com> writes:

> Thanks, Samuel. I did read up on inline tasks, while they have the begin/end
> structure, they're not really part of the structure of the document.
>
> Can you point me to the discussion or thread title about this feature - did a few
> searches first but couldn't find anything that looked like what I was talking 
> about, probably because I'm not describing it in the right terms.

I just added an FAQ about this. It contains several links to discussions
about closing sections:

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#closing-outline-sections

HTH,
Matt

Re: headings with begin/end markers

[Skip Collins]

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 5:03 PM, bertie <bertie@mailinator.com> wrote:
> Or any other suggestion for getting this fact - I realize this is starting to
> look more like XML than an outline - but would really like to get this behavior
> without having to leave orgmode.

I made a suggestion for a natural org sytax to encompass this
functionality here:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/41203
Basically, use a termination string consisting of a number of
asterisks preceded or followed by a '/' character. E.g. ***/ or /*** .

But it seems that no one is working to implement anything like it. It
would probably require some major surgery on the way org deals with
sections.