* Release: Org-mode 5.09
@ 2007-09-15 10:35 Carsten Dominik
2007-09-15 21:25 ` Rainer Stengele
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0 siblings, 5 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-15 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: org-mode list
Org-mode 5.09 is available at http://orgmode.org.
Enjoy!
- Carsten
Version 5.09
------------
* Overview
- Taking a note upon TODO state changes can be restricted to
selected states.
- The format in which dates are shown in the daily/weekly
agenda can be configured.
- The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now t.
- `org-goto' has been made into a general lookup command.
- Priority cycling goes back to the nil state.
- You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
- On Emacs 23, the headline faces for org-mode are now
inherited from the outline faces.
* Incompatible Changes
- The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now
t, in order to better match the original intent of
remember.el (storing a note with minimum interruption of
work flow). I expect that many people will be hit by this
incompatible change - nevertheless I believe it is the right
thing to do.
* Details
- You can now select specific states for recording a note when
switching to that state. With the setting
#+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) ORDERED(o@) INVOICE(i@) PAYED(p) | RECEIVED(r)
#+STARTUP: lognotestate
only the states ORDERED and INVOICE will record a timestamp
and a note.
- You can now set the format of the string for each day in the
agenda and timeline buffers. You can use a format string
interpreted by `format-time-string', or you can write your
own function. Configure the new variable
`org-agenda-format-date'. Thanks to Levin for triggering
this development with a patch.
- The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now
t, in order to better match the original intent of
remember.el (storing a note with minimum interruption of
work flow). Since we can assign files and headlines to
templates, I guess this takes care of selecting a filing
location in most cases. For interactive filing, you now
need a prefix command when exiting `remember'.
- `org-goto' (bound to `C-c C-j') now uses an indirect buffer
and has additional commands enabled: Org-occur with `C-c /'
or even faster with `/', and the commands needed to select
and copy a region. This make `org-goto' a more general
lookup command instead of only a jumping command. Remember
that you can exit with `Q' to go back to the original
location. Thanks to William Henney for this idea.
- Setting the priority with S-up/down now cycles back to a
state where no priority is specified. This was requested by
Rick Moynihan.
- You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
So if you select a location interactively once, you can
re-use it without having to find it again. For this, exit
the remember buffer with `C-u C-u C-c C-c'. The leading
comment in the remember buffer will tell exactly where the
note goes if you exit with a particular command.
Thanks to Maxim Loginov for this idea.
- On Emacs 23, the headline faces for org-mode are now
inherited from the outline faces. This is just a
convenience, so that you only have to configure one set of
faces, and that will then be outline-1 .. outline-8. You
will actually not see any difference in org-mode, because
Stefan Monnier has made the outline faces in Emacs 23 to
match the current org-mode faces.
This change does not effect XEmacs, nor Emacs 21 and 22.
- Bug fixes.
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-15 10:35 Release: Org-mode 5.09 Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-15 21:25 ` Rainer Stengele
2007-09-17 12:24 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-18 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
` (3 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Rainer Stengele @ 2007-09-15 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> Org-mode 5.09 is available at http://orgmode.org.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> - Carsten
>
> Version 5.09
> ------------
>
> * Overview
>
> - Taking a note upon TODO state changes can be restricted to
> selected states.
>
> - The format in which dates are shown in the daily/weekly
> agenda can be configured.
>
> - The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now t.
>
> - `org-goto' has been made into a general lookup command.
>
> - Priority cycling goes back to the nil state.
>
> - You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
>
> - On Emacs 23, the headline faces for org-mode are now
> inherited from the outline faces.
>
> * Incompatible Changes
>
> - The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now
> t, in order to better match the original intent of
> remember.el (storing a note with minimum interruption of
> work flow). I expect that many people will be hit by this
> incompatible change - nevertheless I believe it is the right
> thing to do.
>
> * Details
>
> - You can now select specific states for recording a note when
> switching to that state. With the setting
>
> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) ORDERED(o@) INVOICE(i@) PAYED(p) | RECEIVED(r)
> #+STARTUP: lognotestate
>
> only the states ORDERED and INVOICE will record a timestamp
> and a note.
>
> - You can now set the format of the string for each day in the
> agenda and timeline buffers. You can use a format string
> interpreted by `format-time-string', or you can write your
> own function. Configure the new variable
> `org-agenda-format-date'. Thanks to Levin for triggering
> this development with a patch.
>
> - The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now
> t, in order to better match the original intent of
> remember.el (storing a note with minimum interruption of
> work flow). Since we can assign files and headlines to
> templates, I guess this takes care of selecting a filing
> location in most cases. For interactive filing, you now
> need a prefix command when exiting `remember'.
>
> - `org-goto' (bound to `C-c C-j') now uses an indirect buffer
> and has additional commands enabled: Org-occur with `C-c /'
> or even faster with `/', and the commands needed to select
> and copy a region. This make `org-goto' a more general
> lookup command instead of only a jumping command. Remember
> that you can exit with `Q' to go back to the original
> location. Thanks to William Henney for this idea.
>
> - Setting the priority with S-up/down now cycles back to a
> state where no priority is specified. This was requested by
> Rick Moynihan.
>
> - You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
> So if you select a location interactively once, you can
> re-use it without having to find it again. For this, exit
> the remember buffer with `C-u C-u C-c C-c'. The leading
> comment in the remember buffer will tell exactly where the
> note goes if you exit with a particular command.
> Thanks to Maxim Loginov for this idea.
>
> - On Emacs 23, the headline faces for org-mode are now
> inherited from the outline faces. This is just a
> convenience, so that you only have to configure one set of
> faces, and that will then be outline-1 .. outline-8. You
> will actually not see any difference in org-mode, because
> Stefan Monnier has made the outline faces in Emacs 23 to
> match the current org-mode faces.
>
> This change does not effect XEmacs, nor Emacs 21 and 22.
>
> - Bug fixes.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
After "C-c C-j" trying to find items with a certain regex which should
match a lot of entries finds nothing but shows:
"before first heading".
Some other searches do succeed.
Ah - now I see: Looks like the first match is in the top
:SETUP:
...
:END:
section. Which ends up with the problem
This is probably a bug?
Rainer
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* Re: Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-15 21:25 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2007-09-17 12:24 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-17 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer Stengele; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Fixed, thanks.
- Carsten
On Sep 15, 2007, at 23:25, Rainer Stengele wrote:
> Carsten Dominik schrieb:
>> Org-mode 5.09 is available at http://orgmode.org.
>> Enjoy!
>> - Carsten
>> Version 5.09
>> ------------
>> * Overview
>> - Taking a note upon TODO state changes can be restricted to
>> selected states.
>> - The format in which dates are shown in the daily/weekly
>> agenda can be configured.
>> - The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now t.
>> - `org-goto' has been made into a general lookup command.
>> - Priority cycling goes back to the nil state.
>> - You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
>> - On Emacs 23, the headline faces for org-mode are now
>> inherited from the outline faces.
>> * Incompatible Changes
>> - The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now
>> t, in order to better match the original intent of
>> remember.el (storing a note with minimum interruption of
>> work flow). I expect that many people will be hit by this
>> incompatible change - nevertheless I believe it is the right
>> thing to do.
>> * Details
>> - You can now select specific states for recording a note when
>> switching to that state. With the setting
>> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO(t) ORDERED(o@) INVOICE(i@) PAYED(p) |
>> RECEIVED(r)
>> #+STARTUP: lognotestate
>> only the states ORDERED and INVOICE will record a timestamp
>> and a note.
>> - You can now set the format of the string for each day in the
>> agenda and timeline buffers. You can use a format string
>> interpreted by `format-time-string', or you can write your
>> own function. Configure the new variable
>> `org-agenda-format-date'. Thanks to Levin for triggering
>> this development with a patch.
>> - The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now
>> t, in order to better match the original intent of
>> remember.el (storing a note with minimum interruption of
>> work flow). Since we can assign files and headlines to
>> templates, I guess this takes care of selecting a filing
>> location in most cases. For interactive filing, you now
>> need a prefix command when exiting `remember'.
>> - `org-goto' (bound to `C-c C-j') now uses an indirect buffer
>> and has additional commands enabled: Org-occur with `C-c /'
>> or even faster with `/', and the commands needed to select
>> and copy a region. This make `org-goto' a more general
>> lookup command instead of only a jumping command. Remember
>> that you can exit with `Q' to go back to the original
>> location. Thanks to William Henney for this idea.
>> - Setting the priority with S-up/down now cycles back to a
>> state where no priority is specified. This was requested by
>> Rick Moynihan.
>> - You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
>> So if you select a location interactively once, you can
>> re-use it without having to find it again. For this, exit
>> the remember buffer with `C-u C-u C-c C-c'. The leading
>> comment in the remember buffer will tell exactly where the
>> note goes if you exit with a particular command.
>> Thanks to Maxim Loginov for this idea.
>> - On Emacs 23, the headline faces for org-mode are now
>> inherited from the outline faces. This is just a
>> convenience, so that you only have to configure one set of
>> faces, and that will then be outline-1 .. outline-8. You
>> will actually not see any difference in org-mode, because
>> Stefan Monnier has made the outline faces in Emacs 23 to
>> match the current org-mode faces.
>> This change does not effect XEmacs, nor Emacs 21 and 22.
>> - Bug fixes.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
> After "C-c C-j" trying to find items with a certain regex which should
> match a lot of entries finds nothing but shows:
> "before first heading".
> Some other searches do succeed.
>
> Ah - now I see: Looks like the first match is in the top
> :SETUP:
> ...
> :END:
> section. Which ends up with the problem
> This is probably a bug?
>
> Rainer
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-15 10:35 Release: Org-mode 5.09 Carsten Dominik
2007-09-15 21:25 ` Rainer Stengele
@ 2007-09-18 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
2007-09-18 9:00 ` Levin
` (2 subsequent siblings)
4 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2007-09-18 1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Carsten,
Org-mode 5.09 is available at http://orgmode.org.
- Taking a note upon TODO state changes can be restricted to
selected states.
Perfect !
- The default for `org-remember-store-without-prompt' is now t.
Yeah, one more line will disappear from .emacs for me ;)
- Priority cycling goes back to the nil state.
Perfect !
- You can store a remember note to the *last used* location.
Perfect !
It seems this release is addressing many of my complains. Thank
you very much.
Xavier
--
http://www.gnu.org
http://www.april.org
http://www.lolica.org
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-15 10:35 Release: Org-mode 5.09 Carsten Dominik
2007-09-15 21:25 ` Rainer Stengele
2007-09-18 1:00 ` Xavier Maillard
@ 2007-09-18 9:00 ` Levin
2007-09-18 10:59 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-18 9:27 ` Levin
2007-09-18 9:38 ` Levin
4 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Levin @ 2007-09-18 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Carsten,
> - Priority cycling goes back to the nil state.
Priority cycling is a bit odd. When I use M-n to cycle, it turns
from #C-> nil-> #C-> nil, and M-p will be #A->nil->#A->nil.
So I write this small patch to achieve: M-n will cycle from
#A->#B->#C->nil->#A, and M-p will cycle from #C->#B->#A->nil->#C.
Hope it helps.
-Levin
;; This patch is against org 5.09
diff --git a/lisp/org/org.el b/lisp/org/org.el
index f4746b4..a5567f5 100644
--- a/lisp/org/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org/org.el
@@ -13462,7 +13462,11 @@ ACTION can be `set', `up', `down', or a character."
(if (looking-at org-priority-regexp)
(setq current (string-to-char (match-string 2))
have t)
- (setq current org-default-priority))
+ (setq current (if (eq action 'up)
+ (1+ org-lowest-priority)
+ (if (eq action 'down)
+ (1- org-highest-priority)
+ org-default-priority))))
(cond
((or (eq action 'set) (integerp action))
(if (integerp action)
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-18 9:00 ` Levin
@ 2007-09-18 10:59 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-19 0:49 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-18 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Levin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:00, Levin wrote:
> Hi Carsten,
>
>> - Priority cycling goes back to the nil state.
>
> Priority cycling is a bit odd. When I use M-n to cycle, it turns
> from #C-> nil-> #C-> nil, and M-p will be #A->nil->#A->nil.
I did it like this on purpose, because I wanted S-up to
immediately increase the priority. The default priority is
#B. I know this works differently from the other cycling mechanisms
in Org. However, with you implementation you need to press
S-up S-up S-up to finally get to #A, or you oddly need to use S-down(!)
in increase the priority. I can see argument for both, open to
discussion!
- Carsten
>
> So I write this small patch to achieve: M-n will cycle from
> #A->#B->#C->nil->#A, and M-p will cycle from #C->#B->#A->nil->#C.
>
> Hope it helps.
>
> -Levin
>
> ;; This patch is against org 5.09
>
> diff --git a/lisp/org/org.el b/lisp/org/org.el
> index f4746b4..a5567f5 100644
> --- a/lisp/org/org.el
> +++ b/lisp/org/org.el
> @@ -13462,7 +13462,11 @@ ACTION can be `set', `up', `down', or a
> character."
> (if (looking-at org-priority-regexp)
> (setq current (string-to-char (match-string 2))
> have t)
> - (setq current org-default-priority))
> + (setq current (if (eq action 'up)
> + (1+ org-lowest-priority)
> + (if (eq action 'down)
> + (1- org-highest-priority)
> + org-default-priority))))
> (cond
> ((or (eq action 'set) (integerp action))
> (if (integerp action)
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-18 10:59 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-19 0:49 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2007-09-19 0:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>> Priority cycling is a bit odd. When I use M-n to cycle, it turns
>> from #C-> nil-> #C-> nil, and M-p will be #A->nil->#A->nil.
>
> I did it like this on purpose, because I wanted S-up to
> immediately increase the priority.
I would vote for something very simple:
<S-up> increases priority, <S-down> decreases priority.
<S-up> : nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil
[#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A]
[#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B]
[...]
<S-down> : nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil
[#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A]
[#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B]
[...]
I know it wouldn't be aware of the default priority, but I would still
prefer this behavior over another one.
For making the priority setting aware of the default priority I would
better use this:
<S-up> : increase priority (by with normal cycling)
<S-down> : switch default priority / nil
But I still prefer the very simple interface... as I tend to think
priority handling should be as smooth (and sober) as possible.
--
Bastien
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-19 0:49 ` Bastien
@ 2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-20 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:49, Bastien wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> Priority cycling is a bit odd. When I use M-n to cycle, it turns
>>> from #C-> nil-> #C-> nil, and M-p will be #A->nil->#A->nil.
>>
>> I did it like this on purpose, because I wanted S-up to
>> immediately increase the priority.
>
> I would vote for something very simple:
>
> <S-up> increases priority, <S-down> decreases priority.
>
> <S-up> : nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil
> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A]
> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B]
> [...]
>
> <S-down> : nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil
> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A]
> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B]
> [...]
I do find this *totally* confusing. In this, S-up will *decrease*
the priority.
- Carsten
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-19 0:49 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-20 13:34 ` Bastien
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-20 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 19, 2007, at 2:49, Bastien wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> Priority cycling is a bit odd. When I use M-n to cycle, it turns
>>> from #C-> nil-> #C-> nil, and M-p will be #A->nil->#A->nil.
>>
>> I did it like this on purpose, because I wanted S-up to
>> immediately increase the priority.
>
> I would vote for something very simple:
>
> <S-up> increases priority, <S-down> decreases priority.
>
> <S-up> : nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil
> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A]
> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B]
> [...]
>
> <S-down> : nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil
> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A]
> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B]
> [...]
How about this:
S-up : nil -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] ...
S-sown : nil -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] ...
So the first keypress will really get you up/down from the default
priority, and after that it is normal cycling. Maybe it is clearer
in an example with 5 priorities, A..E, default C:
S-up : nil -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#E] -> [#D] ->
[#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#E] ...
Comments?
- Carsten
--
Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-20 8:45 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-20 13:34 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 14:08 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2007-09-24 9:33 ` Rick Moynihan
0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2007-09-20 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
> How about this:
>
> S-up : nil -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] ...
> S-sown : nil -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] ...
Yes, the general scheme looks fine to me.
The only thing that still tickles me here is that the *default* priority
is not the *easiest* to assign. So why not this:
S-up : nil -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil...
S-sown : nil -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil...
As obvious, the problem in this case is that different keys first assign
the same (default) priority.
Anyway, I won't linger on this further since anyone seems to be okay
with the proposed solution!
--
Bastien
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-20 13:34 ` Bastien
@ 2007-09-20 14:08 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2007-09-20 14:23 ` Bernt Hansen
2007-09-20 14:36 ` Bastien
2007-09-24 9:33 ` Rick Moynihan
1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Nuutti Kotivuori @ 2007-09-20 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Bastien wrote:
> The only thing that still tickles me here is that the *default* priority
> is not the *easiest* to assign. So why not this:
I've never understood what's the difference between a line with the
default priority and a line without a priority at all. That is, with
the default settings:
* [#B] Foo
* Bar
Are these not equivalent in priority sorting? If so, why should the
default priority be ever explicitly said?
-- Naked
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-20 14:08 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
@ 2007-09-20 14:23 ` Bernt Hansen
2007-09-20 20:07 ` John Wiegley
2007-09-20 14:36 ` Bastien
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2007-09-20 14:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Nuutti Kotivuori <naked@iki.fi> writes:
> Bastien wrote:
>> The only thing that still tickles me here is that the *default* priority
>> is not the *easiest* to assign. So why not this:
>
> I've never understood what's the difference between a line with the
> default priority and a line without a priority at all. That is, with
> the default settings:
>
> * [#B] Foo
> * Bar
>
> Are these not equivalent in priority sorting? If so, why should the
> default priority be ever explicitly said?
I never use [#B] priority. I only set A and C. I'm in the habit of
globally replacing [#B] with nothing since I think the task item looks
much cleaner without it (since it shows up in timelog reports and on the
agenda).
Bernt
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* Re: Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-20 14:23 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2007-09-20 20:07 ` John Wiegley
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From: John Wiegley @ 2007-09-20 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Bernt Hansen <bernt@alumni.uwaterloo.ca> writes:
> I never use [#B] priority. I only set A and C. I'm in the habit of
> globally replacing [#B] with nothing since I think the task item looks much
> cleaner without it (since it shows up in timelog reports and on the agenda).
Heh, I'm exactly the opposite. I use the "no priority" state as a way of
letting me know that I haven't considered the task yet. And even then,
defaulting to B makes things work out nicely.
John
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* Re: Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-20 14:08 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
2007-09-20 14:23 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2007-09-20 14:36 ` Bastien
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From: Bastien @ 2007-09-20 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Nuutti Kotivuori <naked@iki.fi> writes:
> Bastien wrote:
>> The only thing that still tickles me here is that the *default* priority
>> is not the *easiest* to assign. So why not this:
>
> I've never understood what's the difference between a line with the
> default priority and a line without a priority at all.
Depends on what "default" stands for. It can be either:
1. the first available state when setting priorities
2. the default state you *want* to use when you need to set a priority;
3. the state that neither increase or decrease the priority rating
> That is, with
> the default settings:
>
> * [#B] Foo
> * Bar
>
> Are these not equivalent in priority sorting?
For sorting with org-sort, yes. But I use this convention that any item
that has a priority - even the default priority - should be done before
other items. For example:
* [#A] Foo
* [#B] Bar
* [#C] Fooo
* Baar
In this case, * Baar and * [#B] are not equivalent.
> If so, why should the default priority be ever explicitly said?
To quickly be able to choose this default priority when cycling? :)
--
Bastien
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-20 13:34 ` Bastien
2007-09-20 14:08 ` Nuutti Kotivuori
@ 2007-09-24 9:33 ` Rick Moynihan
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From: Rick Moynihan @ 2007-09-24 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Bastien wrote:
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
> S-up : nil -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil -> [#C] -> [#B] -> [#A] -> nil...
> S-sown : nil -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil -> [#A] -> [#B] -> [#C] -> nil...
>
> As obvious, the problem in this case is that different keys first assign
> the same (default) priority.
>
Hi all, sorry for chipping in late on these discussions (holiday), but I
think this proposal is closest to what I had in mind.
R.
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-15 10:35 Release: Org-mode 5.09 Carsten Dominik
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2007-09-18 9:00 ` Levin
@ 2007-09-18 9:27 ` Levin
2007-09-18 11:01 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-18 9:38 ` Levin
4 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Levin @ 2007-09-18 9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
There's a small bug with org-fast-todo-selection, pressing " " will trigger an
error instead of clearing the todo state.
Is this small fix ok?
-Levin
diff --git a/lisp/org/org.el b/lisp/org/org.el
index a5567f5..edb5cb2 100644
--- a/lisp/org/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org/org.el
@@ -13058,7 +13058,7 @@ Returns the new TODO keyword, or nil if no state
change should occur."
((or (= c ?\C-g)
(and (= c ?q) (not (rassoc c fulltable))))
(setq quit-flag t))
- ((= c ?\ ) 'none)
+ ((= c ?\ ) nil)
((setq e (rassoc c fulltable) tg (car e))
tg)
(t (setq quit-flag t))))))
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-18 9:27 ` Levin
@ 2007-09-18 11:01 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-18 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Levin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:27, Levin wrote:
> There's a small bug with org-fast-todo-selection, pressing " " will
> trigger an
> error instead of clearing the todo state.
>
> Is this small fix ok?
Yes, thanks.
- Carsten
>
> -Levin
>
> diff --git a/lisp/org/org.el b/lisp/org/org.el
> index a5567f5..edb5cb2 100644
> --- a/lisp/org/org.el
> +++ b/lisp/org/org.el
> @@ -13058,7 +13058,7 @@ Returns the new TODO keyword, or nil if no
> state
> change should occur."
> ((or (= c ?\C-g)
> (and (= c ?q) (not (rassoc c fulltable))))
> (setq quit-flag t))
> - ((= c ?\ ) 'none)
> + ((= c ?\ ) nil)
> ((setq e (rassoc c fulltable) tg (car e))
> tg)
> (t (setq quit-flag t))))))
>
>
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-15 10:35 Release: Org-mode 5.09 Carsten Dominik
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2007-09-18 9:27 ` Levin
@ 2007-09-18 9:38 ` Levin
2007-09-18 11:11 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Levin @ 2007-09-18 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Another thing, if no todo state speedkey is specified, C-u C-c C-t will not
function correctly.
Test file:
------8<--------8<--------
#+SEQ_TODO: TODO STARTED WAITING DELEGATED APPT | DONE DEFERRED CANCELLED
* task1
* task2
------8<--------8<--------
-Levin
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* Re: Release: Org-mode 5.09
2007-09-18 9:38 ` Levin
@ 2007-09-18 11:11 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-18 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Levin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Fixed, thanks.
- Carsten
On Sep 18, 2007, at 11:38, Levin wrote:
> Another thing, if no todo state speedkey is specified, C-u C-c C-t
> will not
> function correctly.
>
> Test file:
> ------8<--------8<--------
> #+SEQ_TODO: TODO STARTED WAITING DELEGATED APPT | DONE DEFERRED
> CANCELLED
>
> * task1
> * task2
> ------8<--------8<--------
>
>
> -Levin
>
>
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>
>
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Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477
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