struggling with fixed date entries

struggling with fixed date entries

[Rainer Stengele]

I wonder what is the best way to work with fixed dates in org.
I do not want to them entered as "SCHEDULED".

Say I have a meeting on a certain date.
I do not want to enter it as a todo, as for me it is not really a todo 
but a simple meeting which is done when it is over.
If I enter it as a simple headline (todo or no todo) and schedule it it 
will show up after the meeting as due until I mark it as "DONE" or 
delete the schedule.

Now I could use the diary. Agenda view will show the event and complain 
no more after it is past. Disadvantage: I cannot org-tag the diary entry.
As I do not use the diary and diary functions are included in org I can 
use something like:

    * Fixed date event                                  :@LOCATION:
      <%%(diary-date 29 08 2007)>

which is ugly and cannot be entered with the help of the calendar (as by 
"C-c C-s"

What do you think? Would it be a good idea to at least support the 
entering of a "diary-date" by a org function directly with the help of 
the calendar? Maybe create a third type of schedule type: "FIXED" 
besides of "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE"?

How do you manage fixed events?


Rainer

Re: struggling with fixed date entries

[Bernt Hansen]

Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@diplan.de> writes:

> I wonder what is the best way to work with fixed dates in org.
> I do not want to them entered as "SCHEDULED".
>
> Say I have a meeting on a certain date.
> I do not want to enter it as a todo, as for me it is not really a todo
> but a simple meeting which is done when it is over.
> If I enter it as a simple headline (todo or no todo) and schedule it
> it will show up after the meeting as due until I mark it as "DONE" or
> delete the schedule.
>
> Now I could use the diary. Agenda view will show the event and
> complain no more after it is past. Disadvantage: I cannot org-tag the
> diary entry.
> As I do not use the diary and diary functions are included in org I
> can use something like:
>
>    * Fixed date event                                  :@LOCATION:
>      <%%(diary-date 29 08 2007)>
>
> which is ugly and cannot be entered with the help of the calendar (as
> by "C-c C-s"
>
> What do you think? Would it be a good idea to at least support the
> entering of a "diary-date" by a org function directly with the help of
> the calendar? Maybe create a third type of schedule type: "FIXED"
> besides of "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE"?
>
> How do you manage fixed events?

What's wrong with just using a regular date?

* Test Meeting
<2007-08-27 Mon 10:00-11:00>

It shows up on the agenda on the date and time specified similar to a
diary entry.

Bernt

Re: struggling with fixed date entries

[Bernt Hansen]

Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@diplan.de> writes:

> I wonder what is the best way to work with fixed dates in org.
> I do not want to them entered as "SCHEDULED".
>
> Say I have a meeting on a certain date.
> I do not want to enter it as a todo, as for me it is not really a todo
> but a simple meeting which is done when it is over.
> If I enter it as a simple headline (todo or no todo) and schedule it
> it will show up after the meeting as due until I mark it as "DONE" or
> delete the schedule.
>
> Now I could use the diary. Agenda view will show the event and
> complain no more after it is past. Disadvantage: I cannot org-tag the
> diary entry.
> As I do not use the diary and diary functions are included in org I
> can use something like:
>
>    * Fixed date event                                  :@LOCATION:
>      <%%(diary-date 29 08 2007)>
>
> which is ugly and cannot be entered with the help of the calendar (as
> by "C-c C-s"
>
> What do you think? Would it be a good idea to at least support the
> entering of a "diary-date" by a org function directly with the help of
> the calendar? Maybe create a third type of schedule type: "FIXED"
> besides of "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE"?
>
> How do you manage fixed events?

What's wrong with just using a regular date?

* Test
<2007-08-27 Mon 10:00-11:00>

It shows up on the agenda on the date and time specified similar to a
diary entry.

Re: struggling with fixed date entries

[Rainer Stengele]

Bernt Hansen schrieb:
> Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@diplan.de> writes:
> 
>> I wonder what is the best way to work with fixed dates in org.
>> I do not want to them entered as "SCHEDULED".
>>
>> Say I have a meeting on a certain date.
>> I do not want to enter it as a todo, as for me it is not really a todo
>> but a simple meeting which is done when it is over.
>> If I enter it as a simple headline (todo or no todo) and schedule it
>> it will show up after the meeting as due until I mark it as "DONE" or
>> delete the schedule.
>>
>> Now I could use the diary. Agenda view will show the event and
>> complain no more after it is past. Disadvantage: I cannot org-tag the
>> diary entry.
>> As I do not use the diary and diary functions are included in org I
>> can use something like:
>>
>>    * Fixed date event                                  :@LOCATION:
>>      <%%(diary-date 29 08 2007)>
>>
>> which is ugly and cannot be entered with the help of the calendar (as
>> by "C-c C-s"
>>
>> What do you think? Would it be a good idea to at least support the
>> entering of a "diary-date" by a org function directly with the help of
>> the calendar? Maybe create a third type of schedule type: "FIXED"
>> besides of "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE"?
>>
>> How do you manage fixed events?
> 
> What's wrong with just using a regular date?
> 
> * Test
> <2007-08-27 Mon 10:00-11:00>
> 
> It shows up on the agenda on the date and time specified similar to a
> diary entry.

Huh, that was easy, thank you!

Why didn't I find it? I was too deep into "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE" 
thinking and simply did not read the docs fully:

Plain time stamp
     A simple time stamp just assigns a date/time to an item. This is 
just like writing down an appointment in a paper agenda, or like writing 
down an event in a diary, when you want to take note of when something 
happened. In the timeline and agenda displays, the headline of an entry 
associated with a plain time stamp will be shown exactly on that date.

          * Meet Peter at the movies <2006-11-01 Wed 19:15>
          * Discussion on climate change <2006-11-02 Thu 20:00-22:00>


Sorry for stealing your time. And thanks again.


Rainer