From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp12.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms5.migadu.com with LMTPS id YOqmDiTyuWNiBwEAbAwnHQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 23:28:52 +0100 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp12.migadu.com with LMTPS id YCWyDiTyuWNlMQEAauVa8A (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 23:28:52 +0100 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBB4C1029C for ; Sat, 7 Jan 2023 23:28:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEHgA-0004gS-2g; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:28:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEHg8-0004gK-Sm for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:28:40 -0500 Received: from mail-wr1-x435.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::435]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pEHg6-0007z1-Ex for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 17:28:40 -0500 Received: by mail-wr1-x435.google.com with SMTP id bn26so4510673wrb.0 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:28:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to:content-language:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=KE9JGC0vboZS29KhmtB7A5E/x9BRJU36uRiPYAKhttA=; b=abxsdHxp5ObvryzcwxF98Td376KARUaBbE/jqsAaRonmQInD3RzGV20QZFzpj9knNn CNMWcTJcudYIscCNqYJAMihW6kxDHOp3Lvq86NClUDHx4rIJSKdDwWor/szqamj6/KSu 2LjyddpgcbOxgL5iJm4wMe4yLDsWTcC87f6hHGV4OihF6ApKgmc+iKRIQAHhzNycHB/b LYvIAUi7kQYn5zemU7Fb9JkoEhO0/CdrvJVDBUe3mu7fnfrFN+BvOW+FtS8OunBXU1L3 Fs0XPEEQh7F0Ny5z3czG+er7EWjG8u1ZThXcORaCMqyGHMKnQ1PISSb9IaJfwbYYf3qg Hfog== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to:content-language:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KE9JGC0vboZS29KhmtB7A5E/x9BRJU36uRiPYAKhttA=; b=Aw96E7F+3rRT7kyTWX8CEfPhYI68btPh0b9lYKEJo3KCnbfk/6Vjuxx73w4hzua27i rEMS6bfyvyXCkK2AIjaawCusb9crcr0D180Whl17/Udv1Qs6ZPQ38/wzgTVnwwQ869OB EGC+tPQkouGg2wYS97AdMQuq47qyT6eslhmD31H4wCW4FoGTUpSSuiB6m380JT7ceAuP bp1L+vrlAROofJolcWXoVbyPyRZ99YAxTcHdH0AGmQ6SIkfst2vRpxTF2dITby346PWR q+VhFkeXR6vwTQYPJn3K5WO2aKfOYPBbgA+gtpF3kkYEL2q3djtBU5CoeT3V8jxUVyT5 PtfA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2koT1ag1iYmwNiSZ8UKt8klxXTZCCz1A+BD7Lcwm96vfMim2Lr9B iS2tYmHGri64PMf/HO05nwDV0KjZ/O0BlQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AMrXdXuHs+vAk23lnC6XCXgHTNm3T+agBX4AbwPzni5mvavwqIXRSjhhG54hsgxSEBQFMCpulBNjEA== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ba10:0:b0:263:9208:2dd with SMTP id o16-20020adfba10000000b00263920802ddmr44645579wrg.18.1673130517067; Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.97] (static-30-127-26-46.ipcom.comunitel.net. [46.26.127.30]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id az28-20020a05600c601c00b003cf57329221sm10929340wmb.14.2023.01.07.14.28.36 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Jan 2023 14:28:36 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------gIE7VX0Rs9D0bOg0lWr8OM7Y" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2023 23:28:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Subject: Re: OS advice Content-Language: en-GB To: =?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Manuel_Mac=c3=adas?= Cc: orgmode References: <87zgauvvc1.fsf@posteo.net> From: Ypo In-Reply-To: <87zgauvvc1.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::435; envelope-from=ypuntot@gmail.com; helo=mail-wr1-x435.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -51 X-Spam_score: -5.2 X-Spam_bar: ----- X-Spam_report: (-5.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-3.114, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1673130532; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Aq4hsMD9S2kTSqEJzkho3CaNBjD2ENapuIrdCSq4VZC70JwQ7VFcxfpiDWT7w77Q6aAb30 oKMojsN6BbofpeUuyVXJP7SpjvHQIInIzZyEHU8ivrtc8Z6G5EwFIZzSL6bSvSNRgpEt/Y QzONzHd3Fch81qjmCIIgd19SjwNQg2Ha+0NBXRKG9n0QSixiSR9EEp2e2PVykhrrN/X9RL BpuuRwlMZxdLzQPZBMxuT8XDZLCTZsniyIkPVs+6EzWe6Pe/qLvi5bgXv1wj42fdc06BA+ Qq3Az0pj+rqRA9mdyTgm/tVMmSk6SlC1nIfso+BfJsA0rBG49wIGGcoWXTFpYg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=abxsdHxp; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1673130532; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=KE9JGC0vboZS29KhmtB7A5E/x9BRJU36uRiPYAKhttA=; b=VNp4/tvLbvWzmQLar4T9QN7TIj++XmBaRvJuMHU40GT0trUS0iMnkafKNtqT2Z6KamOwTK FTHrxfkRoZgNDf6J82cS9gKSpdezxjUYv/KZw2Z6ziXKuYzRyObUaIwa/Q1jYxwTVKQL1D 5tWhwLbsPWRZIt5QclkwSaNNigRfvnjR8UNPVX5GPhetmUPj0kOh/rg5nTWAGLTjPf0tHz edFVXG+XeTvpcRrppraspY4TvAqFFArX772KwCjuK5TGNQ+UrYUV4NhXz50shJNhFOyccZ UJ1PnR32Iv4l2Sv6r1SktqfHSUnKTiDU2Cxyq2qyO8X7bruLstN74Ix7SCZkUQ== X-Spam-Score: -7.69 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: DBB4C1029C Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=abxsdHxp; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -7.69 X-TUID: +7PurmF1GD4z This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------gIE7VX0Rs9D0bOg0lWr8OM7Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wow! Thanks Juan Manuel! El 07/01/2023 a las 23:22, Juan Manuel Macías escribió: > Ypo writes: > >> Hi >> >> Orgmode is sometimes desperately slow on my PC: >> >> Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz, 3100 Mhz >> >> (RAM) 4,00 GB >> >> I am running Windows 10, everything I use works OK, but Orgmode. >> >> Do you think that if I install a Linux OS, Orgmode would run fast? Any >> OS suggestion? > I've read somewhere that Emacs performance on windows tends to be slow, > but I can't assure you because the last windows I suffered was W98, and > at that time I didn't even use Emacs. According to the official GNU > Emacs website: > > #+begin_quote > > The reason for GNU Emacs's existence is to provide a powerful editor for > the GNU operating system. Versions of GNU, such as GNU/Linux, are the > primary platforms for Emacs development. > > However, GNU Emacs includes support for some other systems that > volunteers choose to support. > > [...] > > #+end_quote > > I don't know what specific performance problems you have with Emacs > under Windows, but you can post them on the Emacs-devel mailing list to > help improve Emacs performance on windows. > > However, if you are not tied to windows for work reasons or for a > specific application, my recommendation is that you migrate to > GNU/Linux. But I also recommend that you try to avoid falling into the > clutches of distro hopping, at least to begin with :-). In general, any > of the popular distributions (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) is a good choice. > Even if you want the latest of the latest software, EndeavourOS is an > excellent derivative of Arch Linux (much better than Manjaro) with a > very simple graphical installer. Arch itself also has a graphical > installer, if you want to install it, but I would start with Endeavour. > In Linux you also have the possibility of installing light desktop > environments or window managers, which run well with the specifications > of your PC. Lxde and Lxqt are good options, they have openbox as a > window manager, which is robust and highly configurable. But if you > don't want to complicate your life, xfce is a good option. Or Plasma, > which despite being very attractive, I remember that it did not consume > too many resources. And later, if you want to come in the world of > tiling-style window managers, you have a vast territory to explore. I > was very comfortable with BSPWM for a long time, until I migrated to > EXWM (Emacs X Window Manager), which is what I've been using now for a > few years. > > Best regards, > > Juan Manuel --------------gIE7VX0Rs9D0bOg0lWr8OM7Y Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Wow! Thanks Juan Manuel!

El 07/01/2023 a las 23:22, Juan Manuel Macías escribió:
Ypo writes:

Hi

Orgmode is sometimes desperately slow on my PC: 

Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz, 3100 Mhz

(RAM)    4,00 GB

I am running Windows 10, everything I use works OK, but Orgmode. 

Do you think that if I install a Linux OS, Orgmode would run fast? Any
OS suggestion?
I've read somewhere that Emacs performance on windows tends to be slow,
but I can't assure you because the last windows I suffered was W98, and
at that time I didn't even use Emacs. According to the official GNU
Emacs website:

#+begin_quote

The reason for GNU Emacs's existence is to provide a powerful editor for
the GNU operating system. Versions of GNU, such as GNU/Linux, are the
primary platforms for Emacs development.

However, GNU Emacs includes support for some other systems that
volunteers choose to support.

[...]

#+end_quote

I don't know what specific performance problems you have with Emacs
under Windows, but you can post them on the Emacs-devel mailing list to
help improve Emacs performance on windows.

However, if you are not tied to windows for work reasons or for a
specific application, my recommendation is that you migrate to
GNU/Linux. But I also recommend that you try to avoid falling into the
clutches of distro hopping, at least to begin with :-). In general, any
of the popular distributions (Ubuntu, Fedora, etc.) is a good choice.
Even if you want the latest of the latest software, EndeavourOS is an
excellent derivative of Arch Linux (much better than Manjaro) with a
very simple graphical installer. Arch itself also has a graphical
installer, if you want to install it, but I would start with Endeavour.
In Linux you also have the possibility of installing light desktop
environments or window managers, which run well with the specifications
of your PC. Lxde and Lxqt are good options, they have openbox as a
window manager, which is robust and highly configurable. But if you
don't want to complicate your life, xfce is a good option. Or Plasma,
which despite being very attractive, I remember that it did not consume
too many resources. And later, if you want to come in the world of
tiling-style window managers, you have a vast territory to explore. I
was very comfortable with BSPWM for a long time, until I migrated to
EXWM (Emacs X Window Manager), which is what I've been using now for a
few years.

Best regards,

Juan Manuel 
--------------gIE7VX0Rs9D0bOg0lWr8OM7Y--