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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1621547715; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=islHw+9xhB+KpIe1cwYinR29Woe/9xjCK1ipikELaR0=; b=m2z1QTMDllW63Qzsl8S0/F5l++fuhl+bVNaYa1ZToW9yQhm9asvxeR+gEMCYbLUAU+wfw1 65CxVQ7Un7XAd9H9Pzore1fQksYI2XUJjfFe8Hob7OQhkSHl1sdkKXC65A7/w3u8/g9yUe sy1A1f5YUCSzyDglQjTDD7gIRKGWtCHevQWMW3dPp1LVlOTx8+bkax8VP0vWORNgiRna6e lPDY37NgorZHOr/Mn3Ko3jvv26381B9tG8qPjIkgA9zbbqN1omDLA6rOFwe/tJlp5kJ8AJ 8ti4y0/EaLGGggN/n9mRr24XVIBuO/AuqfLe2VcXw/AUayuTcXuv63Ktg0q4MQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1621547715; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=ldfqUl0A/P0uhUhYxTVhfgDYk5gaYAIMh0Wict1Cte3SdTPk1KVIyp+upmE9YWBi1nNX17 FIPVpAM/Mtaqy60HmoI22xcEN3sCMsnAkUD85u7vqBkMS7ma6nDRDa5E1E52DVB1DYpKNE 8n2dtU4cUNR19BeRnpm7iHFddrqaeXGOsJNmiGnM3yyhxkd7Z8ip4NzCws9KAKP8D8/F/E PXty7wNNpkmh/KPGsL0/hqYq8M9AERDkLnCiNxueP3m/mCGYGuo7oCFd+a8jS7P/cBhyeW 7eddyWG5w1Y2nEQ3KQCwhNam/cZJ1nT+UA3u93102lebkHmCl8IC9TDsgTKPNQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=uq52FE0x; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=i5F26WNd; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mailbox.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.14 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=uq52FE0x; dkim=pass header.d=mailbox.org header.s=mail20150812 header.b=i5F26WNd; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=mailbox.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 12A7F264C0 X-Spam-Score: -3.14 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: yS8R2TgycMqq Am 20.05.2021 um 19:15 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > Hello, > > Denis Maier writes: > >> By the way, I have the impression we can easily get rid of the >> bare-variants completely. If we don't need footcitetext (or if we rename >> the variant to note/text as that would be more appropriate, we can >> something like this: >> >> >> | Style | Variant | Command | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | author | caps | Citeauthor* | >> | author | full | citeauthor | >> | author | caps-full | Citeauthor | >> | author | | citeauthor | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | title | full | citetitle* | >> | title | | citetitle | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | year | full | citeyear* | >> | year | | citeyear | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | locators | parens | pnotecite | >> | locators | parens-caps | Pnotecite | >> | locators | foot | fnotecite | >> | locators | caps | Notecite | >> | locators | | notecite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | nocite | | nocite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | note | text | footcitetext | >> | note | | footcite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | smart | caps | Smartcite | >> | smart | | smartcite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | super | | supercite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | foot | | footcite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | text | caps | Textcite | >> | text | | textcite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | parens | noauthor-caps | Parencite* | >> | parens | noauthor | parencite* | >> | parens | caps | Parencite | >> | parens | | parencite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | plain | noauthor-caps | Cite* | >> | plain | noauthor | cite* | >> | plain | caps | Cite | >> | plain | | cite | >> |-----------+---------------+--------------| >> | (default) | caps | Autocite | >> | (default) | | autocite | >> >> Well, see the revised table above. WDYT? > > I'm fine with it. But I see a long discussion ensued. So, is it too > early to settle on this one, or shall I implement it? Let's wait a bit more. Maybe others want to chime in. Just one thing I was asking myself: Will/should users be able to customize that? The function that handles the export doesn't look to complicated after all. Denis