Hi, There is probably something to do using EteSync end-to-end Cardav/Caldav FOSS program https://www.etesync.com/ : - android / ios client - contacts management - task management and task.org compatibility : https://blog.etesync.com/tasks-org-adds-etesync-support/ - dav bridge / radicale : https://blog.etesync.com/desktop-dav-bridge-a-few-improvements-and-a-radicale-dependency-issue/ - gnome support (summer 2020) I'm a noob in lisp/elisp but there is probably something to write to sync org data with client of this awesome FOSS tool. Best Le dimanche 31 mai 2020 à 10:31 -0700, Eric Abrahamsen a écrit : > Russell Adams writes: > > > I've been trying to find the best way to manage my contacts. I've > > dabbled with > > org-contact and using an Org file with property drawers, I've > > dabbled with > > BBDB. I've looked at standalone programs. > > > > My key problem is I need a way to access my contacts in Emacs and > > Mutt, and send > > them to my Android phone. Single direction sync is fine. > > > > Using a Nextcloud host, org-caldav, and DAVx5 I have already > > successfully pushed my > > calendar events to my Android phone. This makes it even more > > important for me to > > solve this issue finally. > > > > I've considered the merit of a few options: > > > > - Use Org-contacts > > - Pro: It's in org! So easy, lets me keep notes and appointment > > data easily. > > - Cons: Doesn't export at all. > > > > - BBDB > > - Pro: It's in Emacs natively, with Org integration. > > - Pro: Larger users base than Org-contacts, more software > > - Cons: Exports but requires additional tools to sync > > > > Unfortunately looking at the options keeps coming back to how poor > > general > > support for CardDAV and vcard files is. In particular, the popular > > vdirsyncer > > tool is now looking for a new maintainer, and I had the impression > > from his list > > of grievances he might drop it entirely. > > This is not yet a working solution, but I'm gradually getting there > with > EBDB, a port/rewrite of BBDB. It does vCard export, though not very > well > yet. I've also written a library called "vcard", which does parsing > of > vcards into Elisp data, but have yet to get off my butt and wire > everything together. The end result will be an EBDB database that > uses > the vCard format natively for storage. > > Then I was planning on relying on vdirsyncer for CardDAV syncing, and > it's a bummer to hear that it might go unmaintained. I could write a > native CardDAV client using dav.el, but seeing how much fun David > Engster has maintaining org-caldav, I'm not eager to go that route. > > If you're interested, you can follow this issue. > > https://github.com/girzel/ebdb/issues/4 > > Yes, it's issue #4, opened in 2016. Don't let that discourage you! > > Eric > -- Sébastien Rey-Coyrehourcq Research Engineer UMR IDEES 02.35.14.69.30 {Stronger security for your email, follow EFF tutorial : https://ssd.eff.org/}