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From: c.buhtz@posteo.jp
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Communication problems and possible problems with the website
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 12:38:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b89a4d2a4e00174fa16a2790b9b8991c@posteo.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YhjKxd7EDTLR+SgA@tahm.private>

Dear Russell,

thank your for the explanations and taking my issues into account.

Am 25.02.2022 13:25 schrieb Russell Adams:
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:29:38AM +0000, c.buhtz@posteo.jp wrote:
>> This site does not make clear how to submit bug reports. It even does
>> not make clear that the "way" is unusual (not web-based bug-trackers
>> like bugreport or github). It simply says "Submit a bug report" but 
>> does
>> not how. I think the important point and information for the users is
>> that "Bug reports are done via E-Mail" to the mailinglist with
>> manipulating the headers or using Emacs itself.
> 
> Where would this belong? On the main Org page? On Worg? It's
> documented under "feedback" in the manual.
> 
> All Emacs bug reports are to mailing lists. That is the usual.
> 
> On the main org-mode site the first major point under "Contribute" is
> how to submit a bug report.

I was looking here: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html
Especially the section "Ways to contribute" -> "Ways that do not involve 
programming" -> "Send bug reports"
There is not described _how_ to do this. That is the point.

The first sentence links to how to produce "usefull feedback". Yes your 
are right to say, that behind that link is the M-x org-submit-bug-report 
described.
But org-submit-bug-report is about a bug-report and not about feedback. 
Feedback is not a bug-report.
Maybe it is the simplest to write "Submit bugs to the mailing list." And 
maybe give some more details about the manipulated header and if I have 
to subscribe to the list first to submit a bugreport.

What I meant with "unusual" is that in the broader context of FOSS it is 
unusual to do bug reports via M-x ...
By the way I wasn't aware that Emacs itself implements this way, too.

>> It is unclear where the repositories for the source code and the code 
>> of
>> the website are. If I had found them I would have created a PR/patch 
>> for
>> 2.
> 
> Which site?
> 
> https://orgmode.org/ is administered by Org maintainers. I'm not sure
> where that repo is, and it's not publicly writable.

 From my point of view this is unusual to. But this just should made 
clear to the users. I wasted time searching the repo. Just write "The 
repo is not publicly available". ;)
Because orgmode is FOSS everyone (new to it) would expect a source repo.

Kind
Christian


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-25 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-25 11:29 Communication problems and possible problems with the website c.buhtz
2022-02-25 12:20 ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2022-02-25 12:25 ` Russell Adams
2022-02-25 12:38   ` c.buhtz [this message]
2022-02-25 13:12     ` Russell Adams
2022-02-25 12:57   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-26  9:09     ` Bastien
2022-02-25 12:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-25 12:48   ` c.buhtz
2022-02-25 14:18     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-25 14:24       ` c.buhtz
2022-02-25 15:08         ` Russell Adams
2022-02-26  9:19           ` Bastien
2022-02-25 15:14         ` Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github (was: Communication problems and possible problems with the website) Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-25 15:38           ` Michael Powe
2022-02-25 17:39           ` Links to javascript-based websites from orgmode.org: Paypal and Github Bastien Guerry
2022-02-26  5:50             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-26  8:57               ` Bastien
2022-02-26 15:18                 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27 17:18                   ` Bastien Guerry
2022-02-27 17:32                     ` Neil Jerram
2022-02-27  4:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-02-27 17:57                   ` Bastien
2022-02-27  4:43                 ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-03-20 11:27                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-21  1:22                     ` Bradley M. Kuhn
2022-02-27 11:29                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-02-27 12:58                   ` Timothy
2022-02-27 14:25                     ` Michael Powe
2022-03-20  6:31                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18  1:29                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18  9:51                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-18 14:31                   ` Bastien
2022-06-19 15:52                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-20  0:13                     ` briangpowell
2022-06-20  1:22                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-20  2:11                       ` briangpowell
2022-06-20  2:35                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-27  3:43                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-27 10:11                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-28  3:25                           ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-28  3:35                             ` Vikas Rawal
2022-07-02  3:33                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-02 16:23                                 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-07-04  3:39                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-04  4:32                                     ` Timothy
2022-07-04 12:38                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-04 17:48                                         ` Michael Powe
2022-07-06  2:50                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-06 14:42                                           ` Hendursaga
2022-07-08  3:33                                             ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-08  4:32                                               ` Tim Cross
2022-07-08  4:48                                               ` tomas
2022-07-08  5:25                                               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-07-11  3:16                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-11  4:37                                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-06-28  7:02                             ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-06-28  8:23                               ` Tim Cross
2022-06-30  3:09                               ` Richard Stallman
2022-06-30 18:21                                 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-07-01  3:34                                   ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-01  3:53                                     ` Tim Cross
2022-07-01 17:54                                       ` Michael Powe
2022-07-01 18:42                                         ` Samuel Banya
2022-07-02 17:02                                       ` Jeremie Juste
2022-07-01  3:59                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-02  3:32                                       ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-02  3:56                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-02  7:52                                           ` Thomas Dye
2022-07-02  8:43                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-02 16:45                                               ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-04 12:31                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-05  3:01                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-05  3:34                                                   ` Tim Cross
2022-07-05  8:45                                                   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-07-06  2:52                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-06  7:15                                                       ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-07-07  7:25                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2022-07-06 17:55                                                   ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-07-07  9:53                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-07 16:02                                                       ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-06-27 22:42                         ` Tom Gillespie
2022-06-27 23:42                           ` Tim Cross
2022-06-28  1:46                             ` Michael Powe
2022-06-28  1:54                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-06-28 19:48                                 ` Michael Powe
2022-06-28  2:29                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-07-03 23:31                       ` Jean Louis
2022-07-04  0:11                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-26  8:21             ` c.buhtz
2022-02-26  9:05               ` Bastien
2022-02-26  9:13         ` Communication problems and possible problems with the website Bastien
2022-02-25 14:26     ` Russell Adams
2022-02-26  8:58 ` Bastien
2022-02-26 15:16   ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27  6:56     ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-27 17:17       ` Bastien Guerry
2022-02-27 18:25         ` Tim Cross
2022-02-27 23:15           ` Timothy
2022-02-28 13:51         ` c.buhtz
2022-03-20  6:44         ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-02-27 17:10     ` Bastien

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