* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-16 10:48 ` Scot Becker
@ 2011-03-16 20:05 ` Jason McBrayer
2011-03-17 7:21 ` Bastien
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From: Jason McBrayer @ 2011-03-16 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: org-mode list
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I'm toying with the idea of writing a webapp that conforms to the
org-mobile-push/pull specifications as kind of a testbed for some other
ideas, but I don't know if I've got the round tuits available to actually
make it happen.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com> wrote:
> A simple org-mode viewer (that allows you to do some basic
>> folding/unfolding and search -- or even something more complex that
>> would allow you to view it as a mind-map?) would be nice. It could
>> even be simplified with more GUI bells and whistles and still allow
>> one to insert data and save the file. It would not be a full
>> replacement for emacs, ever, but would allow other less technical
>> users to use it as well.
>>
>> There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course it
> partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an interface and
> a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly club). And you can
> work with the latter (the markup specification) apart from the former if you
> have need to. A web-app for viewing and editing org-mode files would open
> nice possibilities for collaboration with the not-yet-initiated and for
> using your files when you are away-from-emacs.
>
> Scot
>
>
--
Jason F. McBrayer
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2011-03-16 10:48 ` Scot Becker
2011-03-16 20:05 ` Jason McBrayer
@ 2011-03-17 7:21 ` Bastien
2011-03-17 8:54 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-03-17 9:22 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-03-17 9:34 ` Jude DaShiell
2011-03-17 10:14 ` Christian Moe
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From: Bastien @ 2011-03-17 7:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scot Becker
Cc: emacs-orgmode, Harum Budi, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa, Rainer M Krug
Hi Scot,
Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com> writes:
> There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course
> it partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an
> interface and a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly
> club).
During the FOSDEM meeting, someone asked whether we had a description of
the .org format -- we don't. A file on Worg detailing these specs would
actually be useful and probably help third-party programs to handle it.
My 2 cents,
--
Bastien
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* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-17 7:21 ` Bastien
@ 2011-03-17 8:54 ` Rainer M Krug
2011-03-17 9:12 ` Bastien
2011-03-17 9:22 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Rainer M Krug @ 2011-03-17 8:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa, Harum Budi
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Hi Scot,
>
> Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course
>> it partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an
>> interface and a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly
>> club).
>
> During the FOSDEM meeting, someone asked whether we had a description of
> the .org format -- we don't. A file on Worg detailing these specs would
> actually be useful and probably help third-party programs to handle it.
Absolutely agree. In addition, it would add some more structure to the
process of using / developing org-mode and it could clarify issues
like the properties section, ... which is sometimes quite cryptic for
new (sometimes even advanced?) users.
Cheers,
Rainer
>
> My 2 cents,
>
> --
> Bastien
>
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* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-17 8:54 ` Rainer M Krug
@ 2011-03-17 9:12 ` Bastien
2011-03-17 9:21 ` Rainer M Krug
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From: Bastien @ 2011-03-17 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rainer M Krug; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Harum Budi, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> writes:
> Absolutely agree. In addition, it would add some more structure to the
> process of using / developing org-mode and it could clarify issues
> like the properties section, ... which is sometimes quite cryptic for
> new (sometimes even advanced?) users.
So I assume we now have a volunteer for this work ;)
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Bastien
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* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-17 9:12 ` Bastien
@ 2011-03-17 9:21 ` Rainer M Krug
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From: Rainer M Krug @ 2011-03-17 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Harum Budi, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien <bzg@altern.org> wrote:
> Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Absolutely agree. In addition, it would add some more structure to the
>> process of using / developing org-mode and it could clarify issues
>> like the properties section, ... which is sometimes quite cryptic for
>> new (sometimes even advanced?) users.
>
> So I assume we now have a volunteer for this work ;)
Does org provide a "48 hour day" mode? I guess it would be a major mode...
>
> --
> Bastien
>
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Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys. (Germany)
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Stellenbosch University
Main Campus, Merriman Avenue
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* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-17 7:21 ` Bastien
2011-03-17 8:54 ` Rainer M Krug
@ 2011-03-17 9:22 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2011-03-17 9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bastien; +Cc: Rainer M Krug, emacs-orgmode, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa, Harum Budi
On 17.3.2011, at 08:21, Bastien wrote:
> Hi Scot,
>
> Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course
>> it partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an
>> interface and a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly
>> club).
>
> During the FOSDEM meeting, someone asked whether we had a description of
> the .org format -- we don't. A file on Worg detailing these specs would
> actually be useful and probably help third-party programs to handle it.
What they really asked for was a formal description that can be
fed into a parser. I am sure that this would be a useful thing to
have and would open a world of applications for the Org-mode format
as a plain text format.
- Carsten
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* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-16 10:48 ` Scot Becker
2011-03-16 20:05 ` Jason McBrayer
2011-03-17 7:21 ` Bastien
@ 2011-03-17 9:34 ` Jude DaShiell
2011-03-17 10:14 ` Christian Moe
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From: Jude DaShiell @ 2011-03-17 9:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scot Becker
Cc: emacs-orgmode, Harum Budi, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa, Rainer M Krug
Has anyone used their iPhone to search for emacs in the apps store?
Someone wrote an app that can import org-mode files onto the iPhone.
Don't yet know how good it is since I'm just starting out with org-mode
myself.On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Scot Becker wrote I have other flavors of
Linux available but for now am using Slackware 13.0 so much of what's on
the tutorials for org-mode isn't applicable because several of the add-on
packages like remember and bbdb don't come with Slackware.
> > > > A
simple org-mode viewer (that allows you to do some basic
> > folding/unfolding and search -- or even something more complex that
> > would allow you to view it as a mind-map?) would be nice. It could
> > even be simplified with more GUI bells and whistles and still allow
> > one to insert data and save the file. It would not be a full
> > replacement for emacs, ever, but would allow other less technical
> > users to use it as well.
> >
> > There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course it
> partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an interface and
> a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly club). And you can
> work with the latter (the markup specification) apart from the former if you
> have need to. A web-app for viewing and editing org-mode files would open
> nice possibilities for collaboration with the not-yet-initiated and for
> using your files when you are away-from-emacs.
>
> Scot
>
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* Re: Other programs to edit Org documents?
2011-03-16 10:48 ` Scot Becker
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2011-03-17 9:34 ` Jude DaShiell
@ 2011-03-17 10:14 ` Christian Moe
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From: Christian Moe @ 2011-03-17 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Scot Becker
Cc: emacs-orgmode, Harum Budi, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa, Rainer M Krug
I've toyed around with a jQuery-based web interface to this end. I
think a reasonable target would be to emulate the functions you can
reach with speed keys on the first column of a heading in Org:
folding, navigation, todo states, promoting, demoting... plus perhaps
extend them to lists and checkboxes.
I plan to post some sample code here when I've got more of those
features implemented (not for the next few weeks I'm afraid).
Yours,
Christian
On 3/16/11 11:48 AM, Scot Becker wrote:
> A simple org-mode viewer (that allows you to do some basic
> folding/unfolding and search -- or even something more complex that
> would allow you to view it as a mind-map?) would be nice. It could
> even be simplified with more GUI bells and whistles and still allow
> one to insert data and save the file. It would not be a full
> replacement for emacs, ever, but would allow other less technical
> users to use it as well.
>
> There are all kinds of advantages to this, seems to me, and of course
> it partly exists in the form of Moblie Org. Org-mode is both an
> interface and a specification, you could say (as well as a friendly
> club). And you can work with the latter (the markup specification)
> apart from the former if you have need to. A web-app for viewing and
> editing org-mode files would open nice possibilities for collaboration
> with the not-yet-initiated and for using your files when you are
> away-from-emacs.
>
> Scot
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