From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: feature request: additional org/remember template escapes: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 18:06:10 +0200 Message-ID: References: <18136.60228.786047.404335@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISFD8-0003pi-Qk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:55:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ISFD7-0003pB-Rp for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:55:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ISFD7-0003p6-IK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:55:37 -0400 Received: from korteweg.uva.nl ([146.50.98.70]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ISFD7-00037H-3n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:55:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <18136.60228.786047.404335@gargle.gargle.HOWL> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: raman@users.sf.net Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Sep 1, 2007, at 6:32, T. V. Raman wrote: > I've been using org with remember as my "Web Notebook" for the > last 18 months. > > I browse exclusively from Emacs as an emacspeak user (w3 and W3M) > and this is an incredibly useful thing to have. > > The one thing that prevents me from completely satisfied is the > set of available template escapes -- > based on what is possible, entries end up looking like: > > ** [[URL]] note > > where "note" is what I typed in the remember buffer. > > Ideally I'd like the above to be : > > ** [[URL][Note]] > Starting with 5.08, you will be able to use %A in the template. It will insert the link, but explicitly prompt you for the link description. > or even better, have the entry go in as a bullet rather than a > section header. This is hard, because the whole note insertion of remember notes is based on the outline structure. No action for now. > Finally, I have never understood what the "inserted at level n > shifted by m" message means, could we come up with better > wording? I feel uneasy criticizing without a better suggestion, > but I dont understand what it means fully, and am consequently > reluctant to hazard at a better phrase. A remember note is an outline entry, i.e. it has a first line with one or many stars. Notes are inserted into the existing outline structure using the command org-paste-subtree. The command is clever about adjusting the outline level of the inserted subtree, so that it correctly fits into the local hierarchy. And to make sure the user understands what just happened, it tells the user what the new outline level of the inserted item is, if it hat to be shifted (i.e. promoted or demoted but removing or adding stars) to get there. At the time of implementation this was more of a debugging feedback than anything else. I guess this is reasonably useful feedback when using the pasting commands explicitly, in an interactive way. We could turn off the message in non-interactive use like this (during remember filing note storing). For interactive use, how about the simpler: "Clipboard pasted as level N subtree" Would that be clearer? - Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477