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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674930474; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Fle2lxvrVCcDNeMpUM2KWf6WxKV3xhiEnEtIBu4GMSs=; b=Z/H0zWiR1hmr2p4vNK1xN+swL4khbZXKJKh2fWh9QNgV42aYPWcvCB8xS8t00CQ4zNuivJ +596Z5gbbje47+xOZQzqxwK8YTT+pymgweJ/KlIzf4P50A1yKsh2yIfNTCIExL2YZCBQXs X6XMVqII+TGwSzLAxMqlSLnCkWGtyGRUJatnLzFkr2zHWM5KIwAo/i3iVz10ZekpQfmtTS 45bbSsMh0BRzdARTlmREOfQuw4yXq7Zk5SbU9tcF9gxgK0Do6EVk271AQNY3hOR2KIquBp LGbzFIGNHoDxxf3W6H8+Fep+409ioKJ33aKYoHrurzKgdL2BVlEnA5u94zBbow== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=cakV1YNd; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674930474; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Oe4OKPoiDBsxue3JMx/lpFt2JXkabiOegdye2whGKBsuZoCeTl3ihM6X2JKNejQ9+W3Ubd yBhjy3hPraj3QPKlIb/W6UBkY7a2qw5vHsC/o0XO3Jlzz4z7lDmVUFnAqjf8fREBvcKEVa 4iDEzX/VCUrt8/s5+THosjsmZTaTbSoJLqbDSWII7en91Nd+kXT1Z8hP3XvCVIaYDm7+DK ymRJRhoSNIjDHQMv5qOjHeVFRTevAhLW1sBnEwv4v5PO3uDUUp0ekwNCIVoYjmJsqM0dJA 3e1uVj9exlBwFusbB//YNFkm71F7EcWbyAlmxVCtpQ7vueZVVQUWo1zt/rrvpg== X-Spam-Score: 0.53 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.53 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=cakV1YNd; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 859A39648 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: NRZn6ek6zMCD --Eo4xMR1bV3sQ/VOB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 03:08:17PM +0100, Gregor Zattler wrote: [...] > The data used in the second link actually comes from > litmus.com, they do such statistics on a regular basis. For > the first link I cannot tell, but the numbers are very > similar to the litmus blog post on April 2021. >=20 > > Those are by majority all web software clients. >=20 > Yes, because what they are measuring is "email opens" via > web pixels and such tracking technologies [...] They do *what*? > So while this data somehow shows the sad state of affairs, I'd venture it shows their incompetence. But that seems to be a honourable way to make money these days. Thanks for expanding my horizon... Cheers --=20 t --Eo4xMR1bV3sQ/VOB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY9Vo5wAKCRAFyCz1etHa Rh62AJ43SUayalfZiIuBogkdxSXCKi38YQCdHchTodQakjSsW0K15gv9QcyeHls= =wFxM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Eo4xMR1bV3sQ/VOB--