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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672256116; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type:in-reply-to:in-reply-to: references:references:list-id:list-help:list-unsubscribe: list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=Dw7CGA1Ze6rTe6T7Nns9rc+22YcKgBc1TzTL+jMq3so=; b=h2Va0Up+PIUDs21YcUxBydGpXN0BDWkOnDZKvz4fs28jLRRPDITI7FyyeYNyMRKGgRl1PU e+FDHvqIA5GoI1VrVxvJYGvUWvQ6YASiGYKUmNlaVPZUwtQAqMXBF/rKEf5HrC6gIRqTit s1xqBVSvbcVhbPm0rrlMFldx4izZg4MMUMzEExz1Wl5SVhgvFddvgYwPhOuO+rhllCJex6 WzMoudgYNuFiTvYynWdZBRgjmS8ipju8Ith2L+3E0T247IhB7ixUrJKZgI0nHpfQ3ElC7q QB0030kjT3Ph9Vk2TA/fMDZP9G/IweyYbdrGsVOwnXVoXJyGgEhMnBd6ackscw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=N1gdEH0N; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672256116; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=RmuBkRCd3tkfgQhxzyn+eZTwXwGgHdF2sMjTXk1HaLHVFzpWJofEjWfMNf5qZ8WsCF749k sjWIXfp+9F8TOiiAy3aN9GZnR8a96eGuxcBA778py9bPW2W5AGfhbz0DOZA7bjmSOQn5V+ r5jkBYCVSAB3v+Sp7u9Z8Z0VecMjj7vqKfjbhK/v9f4v82A3WUh9tbYbGxyHlohfUn84cw ikm2OwipsCzNmCuFzzBRYTk2uQwa3KEcYoyMacnICZhCkHRjRNoaRKqB5HQ0H3c3sankTW LauSC3119sSPciPAxOL+Ch8aJyRv5mC9YKvxTxDMMssi2keHEgSRgJW8R2x5fw== X-Spam-Score: 0.57 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1E66A3B28A Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tuxteam.de header.s=mail header.b=N1gdEH0N; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=none X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: 0.57 X-TUID: PKdiG2pMfLjM --juvPKx6FGeDx+qIn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 01:37:32AM +0800, Timothy wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > 2=C2=A2 from me: I have yet to see an example which seems like it actuall= y needs the > ability to go =E2=80=9Cup=E2=80=9D a level. Sometimes I need to rethink m= y initial impulses, but > often it forces me to use a better structure. >=20 > Considering the example used in the thread, I would think it lends itself= to > something like this: Thanks. I /think/ that's not the point: "classical" text documents seem to do fine without (let me call it) XML-style nesting (aka "going back", as witnessed by TeX/LaTeX, which after all, come from "classical" (scientific) text. We had this in the discussion. There seem to be a few folks around here which are uncomfortable with this limitation. My intent is rather to understand where this discomfort comes from and what we can do about it. I must admit that I was surprised about that limitation at first, but seeing how papers and books and TeX and LaTeX do helped to dispel that irritation of mine. That isn't necessarily the case for everyone, though. Just once I had (or thought I had) to have this and I shared here my "hack", which worked perfectly well (after "enhancing" the one exporter). But I think I was misusing a document description language as a data description language (people do such things, disgusting, I know ;-) Thanks & cheers --=20 t --juvPKx6FGeDx+qIn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY6yaPAAKCRAFyCz1etHa Row6AJ0eAcrPb8WKLfilB47pu/nHpjFMWgCcDfRijL2FQGrqvzmpHMz9Bac0Tz0= =3Hnr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --juvPKx6FGeDx+qIn--