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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1665668217; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=k8+/duGTNpffdkwca2uDAI1S7UagaRd52uNUe9jXQcY=; b=mPkBioLHQkmkQqFXf/efDD92RDf9lAunr73JrDyb4vWHVUSz3TmrYqrwTIs1pa+zm+1/NH vj77bNv8su4O1hyQOVrlzDC1j5dG/7rt0FzZrEBI/VQnlzDf4j6LjQt1mqjKpIhwc7bGXC EaM1m2Jf+B0TkGhHJUbFv69Bcp+QH9bTPEzevbCdLO6Sdb8CNgvEhiCOh6fEytP/IwrLK+ VyXao4eFy2FW4CH8qmz6k8jbMj/jSHN+jny3LyZWfZPYhX53mDfDMPQ77LIwVxBKJl433v Y/ra2Jo4ynypTq/8UhnQC4h0c5ERQUcdkpVttf/hqXgY4ifKo1R0lvI7zkh4/A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1665668217; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=fgNfeogJSe1RQRSCLtMVEjstjruEbP+GAKt/Jex25QuVkG2NA3n+PG7s9cHIonmJ8Nke6W xApAXikaqaERD9U2iZmA6HOfORsuRAzGUzX+CqrAgJIFl897pxs+TKb/ZsmmPu/9ybUzkB SQBEf9X8rRS3ImkIR1zpOfVyYGZwl1iSeTm7UCFtK+LvpXYUwlk54tZTs/ZMr8UNJAVQxd iGN747z0FpEMOfDk3bHTIDNYYWmQOYkXelxJ8mct7T3pOHr+1RFjypq+BgwR129ZgDqX5S Q9Q5a+15xLyMiubvVt2cDbj3jDGe7euNxyh0TCCC4Qa6XhQShUislMJ+WqQ6Kw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.20 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BE27E3B7EB X-Spam-Score: -1.20 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: whF0vWbaZma8 Dear Ihor, Thanks, I have always such joy to get your insights. * Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-13 02:14]: > This is implied. Indeed, you can put information into Emacs by many other > means, including keyword input or command line invocation. I was rather meaning through command line, or through files, including through standard input. I get information over CGI interface over web server into Emacs into Emacs data structure such as hash, which is then encrypted and sent by email safely and automatically, and such hash may be imported. This way I use no database server like so many other web applications. That is one of ways to get input. > Protocol is particularly useful when used via bookmarklets in browsers That is right, that is how it was meant to be used. Now I use it to transfer notes from web browser to PostgreSQL database. Then I use Asciidoc and Org to export information in nice ordered manner. > or when you want to limit information transfer between browser and Emacs > - protocols are a subject of security policy and users might only allow > the protocol types that are known to process date in a safe way, without > danger of running arbitrary Elisp. Let us be realistic, users if not programmers, they cannot know what their browser extension is doing, and Emacs users using org protocol are just few who know how it works. There is no real technical security with Emacs. We have got social security, we are good people and friends because of Emacs, that is why we have decades without many computer security problems. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/