From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id sDSmFb4s1F9KSwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:36:46 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id 0F1cEb4s1F85cwAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:36:46 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BCA379402B0 for ; Sat, 12 Dec 2020 02:36:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:39458 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knum3-0005Sy-Fc for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:36:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knul9-0005Sk-IG for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:35:49 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:53653) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1knul6-0003ui-7b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 21:35:47 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.42]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002935DC.000000005FD42C7D.00007E6D; Fri, 11 Dec 2020 19:35:40 -0700 Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 05:35:16 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Ihor Radchenko Subject: Re: Emacs inserts hardwired org-agenda-files variable, overwriting user options Message-ID: References: <87im9nri5l.fsf@kyleam.com> <7330ab95c71d5d41d7fa6faffeaf300f@isnotmyreal.name> <20201211082501.GA18715@tuxteam.de> <871rfwctb2.fsf@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871rfwctb2.fsf@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: daniela-spit@gmx.it, tomas@tuxteam.de, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.80 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: BCA379402B0 X-Spam-Score: -1.80 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: ZwI9uJcCXEJN * Ihor Radchenko [2020-12-11 17:24]: > > ... there is no active > > hacking on org-agenda and adding new features. > > You are welcome to submit patches. > > I have experimental code to use pretty-symbols in agenda and align tags > even when frame size changes [1]. However, last time I proposed this on > mailing list, there was no interest... > > [1] https://orgmode.org/list/87r1v71aw0.fsf@localhost/ By the way I have completely switched all action management to my database system with tabulated list mode. No more using Org for action management, only for document, not even short notes. Access to notes by relevance search by using PostgreSQL full text search is so much more logical personally. Computer performs search but as database is more compact it does not search over all files. Things are easily reordered rather then refiled. Key bindings for majority of actions are way shorter as tabulated list mode is not editing mode. - tasks can be assigned to one among 200,000+ people in the database, and I need not take care how their names are written and if I will lose a task because I made a type in writing their names. Person is rather selected and computer thinks what is their unique ID, not name. - listing tasks assigned to specific person or group of people is quick and easy, related to person or group is quick or easy. - daily list of pending tasks can be sent by email automatically, list of completed tasks can be sent. Task as such can be sent with one or two keys pressed without me thinking as all related objects are integrated (email address of assignee is already known). - I need not keep one list of assignees in one file, other list in other file, etc. I can list all asignees straight with one key or see actions assigned to them. - and I do not write subordinate tasks as TODO any more, that makes no sense. There is one senior section on what subject, project or objective has to be fullfiled and those subordinate tasks which are not marked with TODO repetitevely can be marked as redundant or superfluous, purposeless when senior objective have been completed. This means they are not done as there is no need to get something done if objective have been fullfiled. Org mode have imposed reverse on users where for example a list of items is only then completed as DONE when subordinate tasks have been completed as DONE, which makes users lie to themselves as they will then "complete" the task which is not complete because it is purposeless only to complete the senior task as DONE. And I think it is possible for anybody regardless of programming skill level to make one's own system of management of tasks within less than a week that will get more aligned to personal individualized way of handling tasks, then trying to accommodate personal needs to software that may have gone one completly wrong direction. Software is there to help the human, not human to help the software.