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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -6.02 X-Spam-Score: -6.02 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 0E46F7FC7C X-TUID: AW0UflQCEOw/ On Sunday, January 14th, 2024 at 03:26, Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi wrote: > I'm not an active Ivy user (although I was in the past) but now I > tried it out with the basic cite-insert processor and "C-u C-j" seems > to be working as "empty input". Phew, what a morning. I removed Ivy, Swiper and Counsel from my configurat= ion and tried Vertico and its connected packages; then find-file didn't wor= k; eventually I discovered some code I'd copied a decade ago and forgotten = that was now interfering with completion somewhere; I tried org-cite-insert= again and had the same problem; I wondered if I'd have to declare Emacs ba= nkruptcy; I read this response and Joost Kremer's ("You'll run into the sam= e issue with Vertico, I suspect"); I tried C-u C-j in Vertico and was glad = it worked; I did some more tweaking to Vertico; I broke something and spent= half an hour on that; finally I got everything working. So after about four hours of fiddling things look more or less how they did= before, except that Emacs now starts up much, much faster, *and* a long-st= anding problem with searching in a buffer is now gone: with Swiper, C-s to = search would make Org lose the formatting on links and they would show [[in= their raw naked form]]. I know someone else had this problem too, so I'm = noting this for anyone searching the archives for Swiper. Thanks to you both for your help, Bill -- William Denton https://www.miskatonic.org/ Librarian, artist and licensed private investigator. Toronto, Canada