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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Spam-Score: -2.46 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 8BF756140C X-Migadu-Scanner: mx0.migadu.com X-TUID: c5i6O9DII/5Q Ihor Radchenko writes: > David Masterson writes: > >>>> What about >>>> >>>> http://mirrors.ctan.org/info/latex-doc-ptr/latex-doc-ptr.pdf >> >> Seems good, but maybe https://ctan.org is the true starting place. They >> can search for "latex" or look in the "Cover" dropdown for some ideas. >> I just found https://tug.org/begin.html there for getting started with >> TeX/LaTeX (which might also be good to mention). > > I am not sure. I cannot easily see beginner resources on CTAN and that > linked latex-doc-ptr.pdf does mention CTAN, alongside other useful > resources like stackexchange, learnlatex.org, and various beginner > tutorials. Okay, I agree. >>> Looks reasonable. >>> We may also link to "texdoc latex" command (the same file, but >>> locally). >> >> Didn't know about 'texdpc', but that brought up details about the >> Luaotfload package for me. Was that what you intended? > > Running texdoc latex in shell will open the same pdf file as in > http://mirrors.ctan.org/info/latex-doc-ptr/latex-doc-ptr.pdf Hmm. For me 'texdoc -l latex' in a shell showed me this: 1 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/doc/luatex/luaotfload/luaotfload-latex.pdf 2 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/doc/support/light-latex-make/llmk.pdf 3 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/doc/support/latex-papersize/README = Readme 4 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/doc/support/latex-git-log/README.md 5 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/doc/support/light-latex-make/README.md.gz 6 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/doc/support/hook-pre-commit-pkg/pre-commit-latex.gz Searching around my system, I don't find the file, but all latex packages seem to be installed. Maybe it's not in Debian Bullseye? If this is a general problem, then new users would have to figure out what wasn't installed (Chromebook starts with a pretty barebones Debian). Perhaps a URL is better to avoid installation issues? -- David Masterson