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For this purpose, what kind of thing is "the Oracle Database"? > > a. A library to link with? > > b. A program to run in a subprocess? > > c. A server running SaaSS? > None of the above! I found that reply tantalizing but not helpful. Fortunately, others have given helpful replies, from which I could see there is no ethical problem in using sql.el to run the Oracle data base software. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)